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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 20 2021 04:38pm)
Question: If the elderly and at risk all get vaccines, you get your vaccine, everyone you care about gets a vaccine (save those who've already caught the virus) what does it matter if someone else doesn't get the vaccine?


The at-risk often can't get the vaccine. Lots of cancer patients and survivors, transplant patients, people with immune deficiencies out there.

It's also just financially sensible to get the vaccine. Even if people are low risk we know Covid is coming with a high cost in the form of side effects even for young people.

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The at-risk often can't get the vaccine. Lots of cancer patients and survivors, transplant patients, people with immune deficiencies out there.

It's also just financially sensible to get the vaccine. Even if people are low risk we know Covid is coming with a high cost in the form of side effects even for young people.


That does not exactly answer the question. Some people just don't like having shit injected into their bodies. "My body my choice" remember? So the question, again, is what does it matter if the low risk opt out?

According to pewresearch, 79% of Americans want the vaccine, and given it's free, are perfectly willing/able to get it. If 70% is the herd immunity number, is it necessary to convince the remainder?
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That does not exactly answer the question. Some people just don't like having shit injected into their bodies. "My body my choice" remember? So the question, again, is what does it matter if the low risk opt out?

According to pewresearch, 79% of Americans want the vaccine, and given it's free, are perfectly willing/able to get it. If 70% is the herd immunity number, is it necessary to convince the remainder?


We have yet to implement anything that contradicts "my body my choice". Nobody is being forced to get the vaccine by the government. I don't even support that.

My preference is to have 100% vaccination for those who can get it, so we can do our best to totally eliminate this problem before it gets a spike protein mutation and we don't see isolated pockets of low-vaccination populations having outbreaks the way we have seen Measles do in the last 5-10 years.
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We have yet to implement anything that contradicts "my body my choice". Nobody is being forced to get the vaccine by the government. I don't even support that.

My preference is to have 100% vaccination for those who can get it, so we can do our best to totally eliminate this problem before it gets a spike protein mutation and we don't see isolated pockets of low-vaccination populations having outbreaks the way we have seen Measles do in the last 5-10 years.


Exercise, Sleep, Good balanced diet so you get all your macros/micros AND ENOUGH SUN/OUTSIDE TIME.

If you have AN ACTUAL HEALTH CONCERN that requires medicines. Sure. If not, you should be OK with being in shape.

NOW if you are OBESE, sure, do whatevet but you SHOULDN'T BE obese.

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Question: If the elderly and at risk all get vaccines, you get your vaccine, everyone you care about gets a vaccine (save those who've already caught the virus) what does it matter if someone else doesn't get the vaccine?


Because hopefully it'll end this nuisance quicker instead of prolonging it. I'm not saying it should be mandatory but I'm sure some leaders in the GOP who have taken the vaccine can attempt to engage with that crowd. If someone like Trump can do, I'm sure many more can temporarily put their political bias aside as well. The risk of thrombosis and fatality is minuscule, but since it's there, I am not faulting people for rejecting... well the NWO mRNA spamming Karen's deserve it. :)
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Exercise, Sleep, Good balanced diet so you get all your macros/micros AND ENOUGH SUN/OUTSIDE TIME.

If you have AN ACTUAL HEALTH CONCERN that requires medicines. Sure. If not, you should be OK with being in shape.

NOW if you are OBESE, sure, do whatevet but you SHOULDN'T BE obese.


The reason you get vaccinated is so you don't carry it to somebody who can't be vaccinated, or who's vaccination didn't take. Since, ya know, 95% effective means 1 in 20 don't get immunity.

No matter how well you take care of yourself, if you live long enough you'll be that person eventually.
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The reason you get vaccinated is so you don't carry it to somebody who can't be vaccinated, or who's vaccination didn't take. Since, ya know, 95% effective means 1 in 20 don't get immunity.

No matter how well you take care of yourself, if you live long enough you'll be that person eventually.


You vaccinate those people. They even said on TV that you can still transmit the virus even while being vaccinated which is why they still force a lockdown on you guys + mask mendate which beat all purposes. They said word for word that they aint sure if the vaccine protect from the variant and they created more variant than there's fast and furious movies.

Look, i agree many vaccine can be good for some problems, same with medicine but this vaccine? nope nope nope and nope same with the flu vaccine.

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Because hopefully it'll end this nuisance quicker instead of prolonging it. I'm not saying it should be mandatory but I'm sure some leaders in the GOP who have taken the vaccine can attempt to engage with that crowd. If someone like Trump can do, I'm sure many more can temporarily put their political bias aside as well. The risk of thrombosis and fatality is minuscule, but since it's there, I am not faulting people for rejecting... well the NWO mRNA spamming Karen's deserve it. :)


I mean, the majority of GOP leaders have promoted the vaccines, as did Trump. I'm not certain what "more" can be done here.

If you want somebody with actual influence over anti-vaxxers to convince them, go talk to Jenny McCarthy, imo.
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You vaccinate those people. They even said on TV that you can still transmit the virus even while being vaccinated which is why they still force a lockdown on you guys + mask mendate which beat all purposes. They said word for word that they aint sure if the vaccine protect from the variant and they created more variant and there's fast and furious movies.

Look, i agree many vaccine can be good for some problems, same with medicine but this vaccine? nope nope nope and nope same with the flu vaccine.


:huh:

"Those people" either are the 5% that got vaccinated but didn't get full immunity, or can't be vaccinated.

Whether you can transmit after the vaccine is still up in the air. I haven't seen clear evidence either way yet.

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I mean, the majority of GOP leaders have promoted the vaccines, as did Trump. I'm not certain what "more" can be done here.

If you want somebody with actual influence over anti-vaxxers to convince them, go talk to Jenny McCarthy, imo.


Trump actively hid that he got the vaccine. You're going to have a hard time selling that he "promoted" the vaccines. This isn't Bitchute who's front page is dominated by conspiracy theories.

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I mean, the majority of GOP leaders have promoted the vaccines, as did Trump. I'm not certain what "more" can be done here.

If you want somebody with actual influence over anti-vaxxers to convince them, go talk to Jenny McCarthy, imo.


I'll take your word for it, but honestly, 45% of Republicans refusing to take it is insane to me. I'm sure Republican politicians can curtail it to at least 30% with enough will power, but we'll see if our polls are right when the time comes.
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