Quote (RedFromWinter @ Jun 7 2020 10:16am)
Fair enough. Still hard to watch, the officers body language looked surprised TBH when the guy fell. Wish they would have helped him out though.
They were probably very surprised. They spent the whole night pushing people back who didn't trip and fall and crack their heads, then they give one guy the same push as everyone else and he goes out cold
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 7 2020 10:20am)
Man you are really desperate. Nobody is saying that he should be allowed to riot, and I know that you know that. You're making it clear that you aren't interested in having an honest conversation. Cultist.
We are saying that the proper force should be used to stop him from rioting. An unarmed 75 year old man requires very little force to subdue. If they had walked up to him, arrested him, and handcuffed him, and walked him over to a cruiser to finish the arrest, this wouldn't be an issue. The argument isn't that they should use zero force, but that they should use proper tactics for the situation, and "they were clearing a protest" doesn't stop them from having that duty.
You're saying he should get some special treatment despite not being visibly much different from anyone else at the protests. Its not as if he looked like the crypt keeper, on that video from behind he looks like Zeljko Ivanek. Every other adult without a disability that went up to the police line like that got pushed back. If there was some way to know for sure who's a vulnerable person than sure like I said it would be a grand idea to single them out for arrest and charges for the danger they're posing to themselves by rioting, but they can't do that to everyone as a matter of course. Are they supposed to see a guy that looks like this and instantly treat him like they would a toddler?:

But that's the other thing- the police don't have such a rule. They don't single out and arrest people in wheelchairs or mothers with babies. Maybe they
should. But if they did, the same people would be screeching about how the evil cops are arresting single mothers and the elderly and post videos of them being put on the ground in handcuffs and denounce
that as an atrocity.
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 7 2020 11:35am)
All members of the emergency response team resign after after 2 cops were suspended without pay for pushing an old man down in Buffalo.
Turns out is the main reason is the union wont back them if something happens.
>Government: We need you to be enforcers and maintain peace regardless if people are compliant or not.
>Government: Oh, but you're on your own if something happens.
https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/entire-bpd-emergency-response-team-resigns-in-support-of-suspended-officers/This is the future of policing. Cops are going to start not giving a fuck and covering their own ass and in a few years the same people crying now will be crying about rampant crime.
There's been some conflicting reports over exactly what their motives are in resigning. They all seem to be immediately motivated by the city pulling the legal coverage out from under them, but some are also showing support for the two cops facing charges, while others aren't.
I do expect that we're about to see the Freddie Grey effect nationwide on a scale we've never even thought possible before.
This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 7 2020 10:50am