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Jun 7 2020 09:13am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 7 2020 10:07am)
I'm not concerned about that part. Clearly he was identified as injured and the third cop that walked up was calling for assostamce to help him.


I just don't understand the rhetoric coming from their associate cop friends. Looks like a clear fuck up, even the two officers identified had body language that showed it.

The other 50ish should be ashamed. Reminds me of people who get s power trip beating on their wife after their FF league teams play shitty.
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Jun 7 2020 09:14am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Jun 7 2020 10:06am)
Why was he left on the ground as they regiment walked by? Even with maritime law, you would circle back and pickup enemy sailors after sinking their ship. My wife said he was going to return a helmet to the police.


They have dedicated medics, they called him immediately and he was there a matter of seconds later. The other cops were holding a line so the rioters wouldn't break through, which would have actually endangered the guy more by preventing medics from reaching him.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 7 2020 10:14am)
They have dedicated medics, they called him immediately and he was there a matter of seconds later. The other cops were holding a line so the rioters wouldn't break through, which would have actually endangered the guy more by preventing medics from reaching him.


Fair enough. Still hard to watch, the officers body language looked surprised TBH when the guy fell. Wish they would have helped him out though.
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Jun 7 2020 09:20am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 7 2020 02:02am)
Is there some magical cutoff age where you're allowed to riot with no consequence and police are unable to treat you the same as everyone else even if you act exactly the same as everyone else?
If a 110 lb 12 year old boy threw a brick at the police and they shot a pepper ball at him, would that be police brutality?


Man you are really desperate. Nobody is saying that he should be allowed to riot, and I know that you know that. You're making it clear that you aren't interested in having an honest conversation. Cultist.

We are saying that the proper force should be used to stop him from rioting. An unarmed 75 year old man requires very little force to subdue. If they had walked up to him, arrested him, and handcuffed him, and walked him over to a cruiser to finish the arrest, this wouldn't be an issue. The argument isn't that they should use zero force, but that they should use proper tactics for the situation, and "they were clearing a protest" doesn't stop them from having that duty.
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Jun 7 2020 09:52am
Old hippy got rekt
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Jun 7 2020 10:05am
Quote (MSX98 @ 7 Jun 2020 11:52)
Old hippy got rekt

lmao

that said yeah, shoving an old hippy is dumb and wrong when he’s just ‘agitating’ alone against 20 cops. cuff him if he’s such a threat. or drive him to denny’s to get one of those senior discount meals that’s a better way of handling it
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Jun 7 2020 10:35am
All members of the emergency response team resign after after 2 cops were suspended without pay for pushing an old man down in Buffalo.

Turns out is the main reason is the union wont back them if something happens.

>Government: We need you to be enforcers and maintain peace regardless if people are compliant or not.

>Government: Oh, but you're on your own if something happens.

https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/entire-bpd-emergency-response-team-resigns-in-support-of-suspended-officers/

This is the future of policing. Cops are going to start not giving a fuck and covering their own ass and in a few years the same people crying now will be crying about rampant crime.
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Jun 7 2020 10:36am
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1269432403593961472

Hoping Democrats don't fall into the trap of this ridiculous bumper sticker line.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1269607986898575360

truth

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 7 2020 10:49am
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Jun 7 2020 10:48am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Jun 7 2020 10:16am)
Fair enough. Still hard to watch, the officers body language looked surprised TBH when the guy fell. Wish they would have helped him out though.


They were probably very surprised. They spent the whole night pushing people back who didn't trip and fall and crack their heads, then they give one guy the same push as everyone else and he goes out cold

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 7 2020 10:20am)
Man you are really desperate. Nobody is saying that he should be allowed to riot, and I know that you know that. You're making it clear that you aren't interested in having an honest conversation. Cultist.

We are saying that the proper force should be used to stop him from rioting. An unarmed 75 year old man requires very little force to subdue. If they had walked up to him, arrested him, and handcuffed him, and walked him over to a cruiser to finish the arrest, this wouldn't be an issue. The argument isn't that they should use zero force, but that they should use proper tactics for the situation, and "they were clearing a protest" doesn't stop them from having that duty.


You're saying he should get some special treatment despite not being visibly much different from anyone else at the protests. Its not as if he looked like the crypt keeper, on that video from behind he looks like Zeljko Ivanek. Every other adult without a disability that went up to the police line like that got pushed back. If there was some way to know for sure who's a vulnerable person than sure like I said it would be a grand idea to single them out for arrest and charges for the danger they're posing to themselves by rioting, but they can't do that to everyone as a matter of course. Are they supposed to see a guy that looks like this and instantly treat him like they would a toddler?:



But that's the other thing- the police don't have such a rule. They don't single out and arrest people in wheelchairs or mothers with babies. Maybe they should. But if they did, the same people would be screeching about how the evil cops are arresting single mothers and the elderly and post videos of them being put on the ground in handcuffs and denounce that as an atrocity.

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All members of the emergency response team resign after after 2 cops were suspended without pay for pushing an old man down in Buffalo.

Turns out is the main reason is the union wont back them if something happens.

>Government: We need you to be enforcers and maintain peace regardless if people are compliant or not.

>Government: Oh, but you're on your own if something happens.

https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/entire-bpd-emergency-response-team-resigns-in-support-of-suspended-officers/

This is the future of policing. Cops are going to start not giving a fuck and covering their own ass and in a few years the same people crying now will be crying about rampant crime.


There's been some conflicting reports over exactly what their motives are in resigning. They all seem to be immediately motivated by the city pulling the legal coverage out from under them, but some are also showing support for the two cops facing charges, while others aren't.

I do expect that we're about to see the Freddie Grey effect nationwide on a scale we've never even thought possible before.

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Jun 7 2020 11:40am
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Jun 2020 12:36)
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1269432403593961472

Hoping Democrats don't fall into the trap of this ridiculous bumper sticker line.

https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1269607986898575360

truth

they want to defund the police though. this is about as honest as many prominent democrats/lefties will be

normal Americans want to end police brutality, punish those who use brutality, stop discrimination used by police forces, better training, end the massive overreach in the form of ridiculous things like no-knock warrants by plainsclothes officers, etc. ie: reform the law enforcement system

This post was edited by excellence on Jun 7 2020 11:45am
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