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Jun 7 2020 12:49am
Quote (thundercock @ Jun 7 2020 02:45am)
It's definitely virtue signaling but it's not a big deal either. The competitive advantage isn't particularly significant.

I will say this though: Why is it so difficult for some people on this forum to say, "yea, blacks got the short end of the stick AND police need to be significantly reformed." They always seem to skirt around this issue...



Probably because it's not true.


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How many times do I have to post this pic before someone admits that shyt happens to everyone regardless of color.










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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 6 2020 10:35pm)
And yet their orders were pretty clearly to march forward and push back any protesters who run up to their line, as is completely normal in riot suppression. It doesn't mean they can pull out an AK47 and spray bullets, but using their shields/batons to push anyone in their path is exactly what they're supposed to be doing, with good and ethical reason. Like all less-lethal force, it still carries risks. Someone lost an eye to a rubber bullet, people got their hands burned trying to pick up gas canisters. Who's fault is it that the "unarmed 75 year old man" got injured? He was out at a riot breaking multiple laws and was trying to face off against police who had issued warnings and made it clear they were going to sweep people out of the street. The police used the same standard procedure all other riot cops use.
One party in this story was clearly breaking the law, the other party was doing their job.


If they shoved a 6 year old on the ground they would also be following orders. It's an unarmed old man ffs, use some common sense. I know I was taught to treat my elders with respect and care but I suppose these people weren't. IMO, if you can't detain a 75 year old man without cracking his head open, perhaps you should find another job.
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If they shoved a 6 year old on the ground they would also be following orders. It's an unarmed old man ffs, use some common sense. I know I was taught to treat my elders with respect and care but I suppose these people weren't. IMO, if you can't detain a 75 year old man without cracking his head open, perhaps you should find another job.


Police serve a warrant on a house
An 8 year old refuses to leave a room when told by the police.
The police tackle him to the ground with all their weight on him, smothering him, and then hit him with a baton smashing his head.

Goom: THEY WERE USING NORMAL FORCE FOR SERVING A WARRANT!
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If they shoved a 6 year old on the ground they would also be following orders. It's an unarmed old man ffs, use some common sense. I know I was taught to treat my elders with respect and care but I suppose these people weren't. IMO, if you can't detain a 75 year old man without cracking his head open, perhaps you should find another job.




I think if they had been ordered to"detain" they would have.

/e I agree they shouldn't have shoved the old man, BUT an old man can stab someone, no problem. So there's two sides to everything yet again.
No, I'm not saying he had a knife.

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Police serve a warrant on a house
An 8 year old refuses to leave a room when told by the police.
The police tackle him to the ground with all their weight on him, smothering him, and then hit him with a baton smashing his head.

Goom: THEY WERE USING NORMAL FORCE FOR SERVING A WARRANT!


It's pretty insane that people defend some of these actions. I'm pretty ashamed of my country right now because I know we can do better than this.
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It's pretty insane that people defend some of these actions. I'm pretty ashamed of my country right now because I know we can do better than this.




You need to get out more too.



/e 57 fellow officers walked out because of this. The old guy shouldn't even have been there. WTF over? At 75 years old he should have known to gtfo of the way when you have 20? cops in riot gear coming down the street.
Even if he was a liberal...he should have left the area.

You see the video where some ahole protester in Mexico, lit a cop on fire? Wtf is wrong with people.

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Quote (thundercock @ Jun 7 2020 01:50am)
If they shoved a 6 year old on the ground they would also be following orders. It's an unarmed old man ffs, use some common sense. I know I was taught to treat my elders with respect and care but I suppose these people weren't. IMO, if you can't detain a 75 year old man without cracking his head open, perhaps you should find another job.


He's an adult male with no visually identifiable disabilities who walked up to them waving his camera around, its not like he's some infirm geriatric in a wheelchair.
Is there some magical cutoff age where you're allowed to riot with no consequence and police are unable to treat you the same as everyone else even if you act exactly the same as everyone else?
If a 110 lb 12 year old boy threw a brick at the police and they shot a pepper ball at him, would that be police brutality?

As I said, if police really wanted to tailor their enforcement to protect vulnerable people they should just start arresting any underage or overage or otherwise disabled people while pushing back the rest. Old guy would be better off if they had grabbed him and pulled him behind the police line and zip tied his hands and charged him with multiple crimes. Because there's plenty of people out on the streets during these riots who really shouldn't be there
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 7 2020 05:02pm)
He's an adult male with no visually identifiable disabilities who walked up to them waving his camera around, its not like he's some infirm geriatric in a wheelchair.
Is there some magical cutoff age where you're allowed to riot with no consequence and police are unable to treat you the same as everyone else even if you act exactly the same as everyone else?
If a 110 lb 12 year old boy threw a brick at the police and they shot a pepper ball at him, would that be police brutality?

As I said, if police really wanted to tailor their enforcement to protect vulnerable people they should just start arresting any underage or overage or otherwise disabled people while pushing back the rest. Old guy would be better off if they had grabbed him and pulled him behind the police line and zip tied his hands and charged him with multiple crimes. Because there's plenty of people out on the streets during these riots who really shouldn't be there


Hi, police should not be assaulting ANY unarmed non combative person, PERIOD.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 7 2020 02:03am)
Hi, police should not be assaulting ANY unarmed non combative person, PERIOD.


Let the rioters burn down the city and kill each other?
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 7 2020 05:05pm)
Let the rioters burn down the city and kill each other?


No, rioters are combative, 75 year old men walking up and asking a question are not.
There is ZERO excuse for shoving old people over, and this is a result of shitty training.
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