Quote (TiStuff @ 20 Dec 2020 14:14)
its still a dumb argument and even worse after you embellish it.
A private company that serves the public, let that sink in for a while.
and the big question still is, "at what point do you draw the line" that question determines whether your an "order follower" or not. I determines if you have any principle.
No. A private business that does business with the public. It does not "serve" anything but itself. The fact that you're 100% ignorant of what business ownership is is your problem, not mine. That you seek to control the lives and livelihoods of other people makes you disgusting and unprincipled.
Businesses are not "public servants" and are not answerable to the public beyond following the same laws as anyone else. When someone comes to your home, your private property, they're obligated to either follow your rules (within the law), or leave. Likewise, when you enter a business, you're entering private property, and need to either obey the rules of the business, or leave. It's simple math. Public servants is the description of government employees, such as governors who're arbitrarily decreeing that private properties cannot be open to the public. How's that serving, exactly?
Quote (SoWintertodt @ 20 Dec 2020 08:37)
That's why I hate private businesses and would agree with nationalization of all companies, no more income going to foreign investors, no more tax avoidance, no more harassment from them saying they close the business if they don't receive more benefits from the government. So fuck them because they only hunt easy profits on the back of poor...
Worked great for the Soviets. How many starved again? Worked great for the Chinese. How many starved, and were forced into unpaid labor? Worked great for Venezuela. Worked great for Cuba. Worked great for... Well, let's just say you're an idiot and call it good at that.
A private business isn't "hunting easy profits on the back of the poor." A private business is just a person or people who say, "Hey, I can do this thing that other people may value, so I'm going to do this thing and sell it, so that I can put food on my table while spreading value to others." The idea behind private business is that those who provide more value from the goods or services they provide earn more compensation for doing so. In this way, it's beneficial to be more highly skilled, more knowledgeable, and to provide higher quality goods and services. Effectively "the better and more innovative you are, the more you get." When you nationalize everything, skills aren't valued. You're mandated to do whatever you're told, and being particularly skilled or knowledgeable gets you nothing extra. There's no reason to strive for more, no reason to progress past what's currently in existence, no reason to move forward. Because you will never have control of your own life or your own future. Some government official can and likely will fuck you the moment you even start to show any form of innovative spirit.
I get that you're probably referring to large multinational corporations like Amazon, but I'm not. I'm talking about the millions of small businesses all across the United States. Those businesses are privately owned and operated. They're financed through the blood sweat and tears of the individuals who started them. People who don't have some magical government bailout to fall back on when times get tough. People who invested their lives, livelihoods, futures, and in many cases families on their professions. That you want to take it all away from them arbitrarily and without just compensation merely makes you a tyrannical communist, and you can go fuck yourself.