so many newfaygos in here

I think this might be the biggest story coming out of tonight. Biden is on record admitting that he wants to get rid of the oil industry, and that he wants to grant full amnesty for all illegal aliens.

Coupled with Trump's very adequate and sane performance, this should definitely stop the bottom from falling out any further for Trump or Republicans. In fact, I expect the race to tighten somewhat until election day.




Overall, I would rate tonight as a win for Trump, albeit not by a huge margin. He got his zingers in, and he had to debate against a biased moderator and loaded questions. But he also had several weak moments, particularly on his taxes/Wall Street, and on climate change. Biden was annoying when he pandered like a typical swamp demon, but so was Trump when he deflected and rambled aimlessly on issues where he didnt have good arguments on the substance.

I dont think that this debate will shift a lot of people's opinion, but it should reassure wavering conservatives and cause them to come home to the GOP in the end.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 22 2020 08:48pm

Biden is a lie factory. I had a hard time picking out more than a few truths tonight.

I think the debate was fine but isn't going to change the trajectory of the race. I think Trump won on some topics and Biden won on other topics. Given the incredibly low bar that Trump set for himself, I think you can give Trump the win here.



Likewise, perhaps the polls are underestimating Biden's support and he wins by double digits. The knife cuts both ways.

An amusing destruction.

Beijing Biden's Green Leap Forward is disqualifying

Lying about not wanting to ban fracking when there are numerous videos out there..

Reinstate lockdowns? Eliminate all fossil fuels? insanity.

But the 4 year propaganda campaign and media stranglehold will probably be too much for it to matter

good debate all around

i get trumpers are bad at everything but being bad at projection is just a stupid look. trump lives in a completely alternate reality.

Of course. I never said otherwise. It however contradicts what you were saying. Due to the huge and unusual amount of variance in the polls, it is objectively not justified to consider this race already over like you do.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 22 2020 08:53pm

Trump took this one home

Mic muting definitely working in trumps favor here

Baited Biden into some traps, biden playing defense most of the debate imo

Don’t think this will do much to swing the needle though

I mean, I gave Trump a 5% chance and I think that's within the confines of reality. A LOT of things have to go right for Trump for him to win and I just don't see the stars lining up for him this time.