Only when such action has gained the support of the majority. That's the right way to build a successful revolution.

I’m surprised the community hasn’t started attacking cops

This type of thinking is antiquated tho. we used to live in an era where the cops wouldnt even get in trouble, just literally nothing would happen. the police dept. would say "your son was a criminal, go home darkie". then they invented "administrative leave" and "internal investigations". then they started state run investigations by a more neutral force. then even the FBI and DOJ would get involved to oversee or conduct the investigations.

Now here we are in an era where all 4 officers, even the 3 non-murderer bystander cops who didn't step in, were fired inside of a week. pre investigation, pre charges, pre trial, no FBI/DOJ needing to step in. investigations are being done now, and charges are almost 100% coming. the family will get millions rather than a racial slur. the cop who did the killing will likely get homicide charges of some kind, and do time in prison as the #1 target living every second in fear. the other 3 cops will get lesser charges, maybe beat them, maybe not, but never work another day in law enforcement.

and yet the mob is reacting as if cops laughed and called the victims family niggers. its like they want a 2 day no investigation trial and lynching, despite saying for years how unjust this is. somehow unjust treatment is the only acceptable justice? this is minnesota, not South Carolina. they're not drawing on nearly as much historical poor treatment as the deep south. it's opportunist bad behavior, looting TV's. shit at least take pampers and formula.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 28 2020 07:27am

On one hand I agree. On the other hand, the tactic in the past has been to wait for the inevitable verdict (of not guilty) and THEN do the riot. Has that tactic worked?

It's like a football team calling a running play on 3rd&12. Makes no sense, but might as well change things up for the hell of it, eh?

This post was edited by Kayeto on May 28 2020 07:32am

From FB:

"Some (a lot) of people wonder why looting and destruction of property happen at a peaceful protest. They wonder why some people think it helps. I’ll try to lay it out for you:

It’s not meant to “help.”

Some people just swoop in to take advantage of the chaos and disorder.

But even more entwined, when justice is so long delayed and emotions run high, why respect property when the powers and the people who empower and enable them prize property over life. Destruction of property in situations like this is an additional action that pretty much says, “If you won’t hear the people, we’ll keep doing this until you do something.”

It does actually make sense because if otherwise, everyday methods - the peaceful methods so many people say they want and support and would OBVIOUSLY listen to (spoilers: look around us- they don’t) - get ignored and dismissed, then the volume must be raised. It WILL get raised, sooner or later.

Our society values things and money more than people. So if they’re destroying people with impunity, something the powers and their enablers value will be destroyed.

And you see it in how people annoyingly, self righteously equate destruction of property with the destruction of body, the destruction of livelihood with the destruction of life.

And too many people don’t notice that it’s only things being destroyed when it could be lives. And THAT is why it’s different than what is being protested."

Yeah, peaceful protest never achieves anything. I mean... just image for a second that the 1963 March on Washington had ended in widespread rioting and looting - does anyone think the Civl Rights Act of 1964 would have been passed in that case?

This violence is extremely counterproductive and buries the good cause/case the Minneapolis black community had.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 28 2020 07:36am

ok but, the things being destroyed are not things that belong to the people who we are unhappy with. The chief of police doesn't care if Wendy's gets destroyed. It actually helps him because it gives him more power going forward.

Only things, not people...

Meanwhile innocent people are dying in building fires who had nothing to do with the riot to begin with.

fear of riots since Ferguson has been well documented as changing things at a quicker pace than what we were previously seeing. the black community has been crying out for decades, but post Ferguson/Michael Brown case we've seen more rapid change. cops are reporting more reluctance to draw weapons, use weapons, etc. DAs are citing public unrest as a reason for higher charges than they'd previously issue. Police precincts are releasing body cam footage immediately to try and remain transparent. etc. to say post verdict riots, or even the fear of riots, have not had an affect is just patently false. The Ferguson Effect is real. CJ reform went from a no party platform (see HRC/Joe Biden era war on crime measures) to a mainstay of the Democratic party with bipartisan support. Kim Kardashian has a residency in the White House to lobby for convicted criminal releases with the "most racist president of all time". the wheel is turning, it's just not a 1000 rpm like some want.

"Extreme white"?

Okay racist, you're as bad as the cops (not all white) who murdered Floyd. You want a riot where people will die because "race". That makes you a racist. Pure and simple.



What profession is "extreme white"? What profession is a store that sells TVs? What profession are a bunch of people who get burned alive in their fucking homes when they've done nothing wrong?



I called this in posts #20 and #75. They needed to promptly fire and arrest the officers was post 20, and "simply firing" won't be enough in 75.

This was easily predictable, no matter how stupid. "Black man was murdered! Time to go commit multiple murders, assaults, robberies, and arsons. Yeah!"



Who's reaping what they sowed? Seems to me the officers who sparked this are well-protected and reaping absolutely nothing.

Every person and business being assaulted, killed, and set on fire by these rioters is a victim.



While even I wouldn't have stated it quite so bluntly, agreed.



What's sad is that cops murder a man, and the response is that filthy degenerates take it as a sign to just randomly start murdering other innocent people, looting, and setting shit on fire, and you support those actions.



Nice try. Too late to walk it back. You think that because one man was murdered, murdering everyone and either stealing or destroying everything nearby is simply okay. I think you're really just celebrating because this is occurring in the US, and you celebrate anything that harms Americans.



They don't want a 2 day trial and lynching. They want the 4 cops so they can lynch them without a trial.

Side question: If low income housing is burnt down in the riots, where are the rioters going to live? Are the businesses that they've burnt down supposed to somehow have their taxes go up to fund new tenements?



Anyhow, this entire things was highly predictable. I said it from the start, "Arrest the officers now pending investigation and trial" and the moment I saw that a "protest" was scheduled, I tuned out. A race riot was pretty much a guarantee, and in the end, only the innocent have suffered for it. The police who murdered Floyd are safe and sound, the city officials who implement the policies the police follow are safe and sound, only civilians and businesses have suffered. Once the smoke clears, hopefully they're able to identify every single one of the surviving rioters (actual rioters, those who committed assault, murder, arson, and robbery) and slap them every bit as hard as the officer who murdered Floyd. Bunch of counterproductive bullshit.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 28 2020 07:50am