Quote (thesnipa @ May 22 2023 12:08pm)
obligatory: i havent physically been to any, i'm just reading second hand.
I think the issue is mostly a problem of presenting evidence to minds that aren't even able to comprehend it with very little room for a counter argument. like am i a person who thinks that "there are only 2 genders" or "be proud to be white" narratives hold water? no, they're a reaction and largely as or more toxic. but the idea that you can't EVER publicly present them while the other side can is problematic. presenting ideas of gender fluidity to young children at all to me is an issue, mostly just due to statistics. even VERY optimistic studies show that maybe 1/100 kids are trans. so why present the evidence to a whole range of children? especially at ages they aren't able to take it in? better imo to identify cases and deal with them individually. along the same vein is the books in libraries about masturbation or sexual exploration. sure, all kids do it, but i dont see a reason for that to ever be a publicly available book. its a footnote in the yearly sex ed program and beyond that leave it up to parents.
it shouldn't be tho, at all.
i'm sure if i loosely defined someone as a racist you'd be quite upset, because you understand the social stigma that places on them.
we live in a society that loosely defines stigmatizing terms for weaponization, and that's lowbrow thinking that will come for us all in the end. good luck explaining that you're not a "sexual abuser of children" after you get called that because you took off your top at a public beach with children present.
this behavior isn't even by-and-large illegal. we shouldn't apply a term with that level of recourse to something that is legal in most states.
If somebody loosely used the word “racist” I would simply explain how it isn’t racist if it was even worth having the conversation.
If you don’t thing bringing a child to a sexualized performance is not sexual abuse I would expect the same from you, not to get upset but to explain how you think it isn’t abusive.
As to your topless at the beach analogy, that is different. The sunbather is not putting on a performance, not is she reaching out to children. There is no topless sunbathing for children events at public libraries. There are no topless sunbathing parades on Main Street. At the point a parent sees a topless sunbather, they will correctly find a different place for their children to play without tits in full view. It is doubtful a parent would bring a child to a topless beach to begin with, and doing so knowingly is borderline.