We didn't really care about Russia until Putin invaded Ukraine and murdered a bunch of civilians.

I think that's fairly rational

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 3 2022 09:56am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

Ohwait no one fucking cares

Got it

Of course they care^^ Its not exclusive.

The fact that civilians died in other wars, does not lessen the hatred the world feels for Putin, and by extension Russia.

Check the protests in UK against the Iraq war. Then compare it the ones in Russia, pathetic.

To be fair, the consequences of protesting against one's own government are vastly different in Western Europe and Russia. Open protest is a lot easier in a liberal democracy with freedom of opinion and strong institutions than in a despotic police state which regularly cracks down on dissidents and in which free speech as well as civil society are barely hanging by a thread.

Second Iraq war was illegal and a shit-ton of innocent civilians died. No WMD found, it was a hoax to justify the war.

NO ONE really cared because NO ONE was put behind bars for war crimes / human rights violations as far as I know.

Look what happens right now, how many thousands of investigations have been launched already and genocide claims made. Pathetic

How many of protesters were tortured and sent for 15 years to jail? Russian jail, not a cozy British one. Compare it to 2000 just in February, 24th only in Moscow then we start talking about what's pathetic and what's not. For now the most pathetic thing is telling everyone that this wouldn't ever happen few days before invasion, the second is retreat from Kyev, the third place is shared between Kherson and Kharkiv oblast retreat and as I mentioned few days ago: Zaporizhzhia NPP is now the subject of negotiation and "highly-likely" will be handed to IAEA (read: Ukraine).

That was Russian citizens own choice, or lack of protest that allowed a despot to control them for 2 decades. That is now spilling over into Ukraine and other countries.

British people wouldn't stand for a such a dictatorship.





I agree it was a terrible outcome and on false pretenses. They set a precedent and now Putin has done basically the same thing in 2022.

Newly constructed Russian military base in Mariupol

Not sure why they do this since it's almost sure it be destroyed soon. Maybe Russian could use ukrainians civilians as human shields inside, no one would be surprised tho.
Not even the war experts (lol) doing whataboutism non-stop on USA in middle west.

None of the things you guys write here is rational but driven by emotions, when it's not the endless lefties/trump fights
when everyone think the same, nobody is thinking anymore

its touching that you care so much for Muslims