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Jul 23 2022 01:30am
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 23 2022 02:26am)
im not close to this so forgive me while i catch up. i would say his tweets on the day were negative (re: voter fraud, undermining/questioning the process) while accepting that his tweets re: no violence were pretty black and white (i.e. attempt at deescalating). I had read several books about this, but did not following the hearing. what item(s) are currently being used against him in the hearing?


I think the most inflammatory rhetoric they could point to was one sentence of him saying they'll "fight like hell" inbetween all the quotes about 'going in peace'

The democratic position is premised on the criminalization of contesting the election at all. That undermining/questioning the process was in and of itself the incitement to riot.
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Jul 23 2022 01:35am
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I think the most inflammatory rhetoric they could point to was one sentence of him saying they'll "fight like hell" inbetween all the quotes about 'going in peace'

The democratic position is premised on the criminalization of contesting the election at all. That undermining/questioning the process was in and of itself the incitement to riot.


to be frank i just find it amazing that americans actually rioted directly against their government. its very hard to get away from that. it did not occur in a vaccuum. if i forget that for a moment, then i would look at what happened before jan 6th an after jan 6th. ill go away and read a bit more about it i guess.

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Jul 23 2022 01:47am
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to be frank i just find it amazing that americans actually rioted directly against their government. its very hard to get away from that. it did not occur in a vaccuum. if i forget that for a moment, then i would look at what happened before jan 6th an after jan 6th. ill go away and read a bit more about it i guess.


Throw a stick in the air of American history and it will land on someone rioting against the government. In portland they laid siege to the federal courthouse for months straight- just a year ago. In the civil war, the union had to use gunships to suppress riots in NYC
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Throw a stick in the air of American history and it will land on someone rioting against the government. In portland they laid siege to the federal courthouse for months straight- just a year ago. In the civil war, the union had to use gunships to suppress riots in NYC


as a neutral observer that all reeks of a deeply divided country, nothing good there.
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as a neutral observer that all reeks of a deeply divided country, nothing good there.


not a neutral observer anymore lol :lol:

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not a neutral observer anymore lol :lol:


If a person or country adopts a neutral position or remains neutral, they do not support anyone in a disagreement, war, or contest.

ehmm, i have not landed on a position ergo i think i still am?

if you want, i would add: the hearings into this spiel are not neutral noting they already made up their mind before the hearings began, i.e. already "aligned" (i.e. not neutral) against trump.

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as a neutral observer that all reeks of a deeply divided country, nothing good there.


For a free and open society, particularly one with deep cultural and ideological divisions, the potential for riots is a natural consequence. And its the responsibility of government to both protect the rights of protesters to peacefully assemble, and to swiftly quash riots to protect the public from them- and the rioters from themselves. What we've seen is democrats fomenting left wing riots and completely abdicating their responsibility to keep the peace, then when theres even a hint of right wing assembly they'll preemptively lock them up for just daring to protest at all.
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For a free and open society, particularly one with deep cultural and ideological divisions, the potential for riots is a natural consequence. And its the responsibility of government to both protect the rights of protesters to peacefully assemble, and to swiftly quash riots to protect the public from them- and the rioters from themselves. What we've seen is democrats fomenting left wing riots and completely abdicating their responsibility to keep the peace, then when theres even a hint of right wing assembly they'll preemptively lock them up for just daring to protest at all.


i dont know enough about the highlighted to comment on it, but i agree with everything else.

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Jul 23 2022 05:45am
Fucking LOL. That is all.
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i dont know enough about the highlighted to comment on it, but i agree with everything else.


the highlighted comment

is about the jan 6th .........erection
Hahahahah It Happened Again
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89553362&f=119


cops let people in then the same people spend over a year in solitary confinement framing them up as the biggest criminals in world history.
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