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Nov 25 2022 05:24pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 02:22am)
Sure, make a thread and people will complain too.

I find it somewhat comical that you oppose any morality based argument (once again you’re the one bringing that up for some reason) while others are justifying the war based on some moral high-ground.


99% of comments here are based on morality, and poking fun and pointing out their hypocrisy is the only way they should be treated.

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Nov 25 2022 05:26pm
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99% of comments here are based on morality, and poking fun and pointing out their hypocrisy is the only way they should be treated.

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Yet you’re only "poking fun and pointing out the hypocrisy" of people opposed to this war, whether they’re using moral arguments or not.

You’re more biased than you think and pretend to be.
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Nov 25 2022 05:31pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 02:26am)
Yet you’re only "poking fun and pointing out the hypocrisy" of people opposed to this war, whether they’re using moral arguments or not.

You’re more biased than you think and pretend to be.


Both sides approaching this from a moralistic point of view are ridiculous, but anti-Russian side is probably 2-3x times more ridiculous, because those people have been involved in millions of deaths rather than thousands.

Generally speaking, both sides are completely out of depth, but one is running the mental gymnastics harder

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Nov 25 2022 05:35pm
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Both sides approaching this from a moralistic point of view are ridiculous, but anti-Russian side is probably 2-3x times more ridiculous, because those people have been involved in millions of deaths rather than thousands.

Generally speaking, both sides are completely out of depth.



Yet, you’re only criticizing one side, idk kinda seems hypocritical to me. Or maybe it’s your morality being selective when you decide who you insult ;)
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Nov 25 2022 05:41pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 25 Nov 2022 18:17)
Sure America may be profiting in the long run from Russia breaking its teeth in Ukraine. That doesn’t make the invasion justified or "morally right", it makes America hypocritical and Russia an aggressor.


No it makes Russia a defender. In what universe do you live in where it's perfectly acceptable for a super power to blatantly destabilize the border of another super power?
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Nov 25 2022 05:45pm
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No it makes Russia a defender. In what universe do you live in where it's perfectly acceptable for a super power to blatantly destabilize the border of another super power?



A defensive invasion … nice spin on things. You could be somewhat right if this war was only in separatist regions after a referendum.
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Nov 25 2022 05:47pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 02:35am)
Yet, you’re only criticizing one side, idk kinda seems hypocritical to me. Or maybe it’s your morality being selective when you decide who you insult ;)


Pro-russians, generally don't bring up morality to the same extent. You should read the comments, there are several pro-Russians that are still balanced and understand the background context.

Having a bias, isn't wrong, everyone does. The problem is when you simplify the conflict into "orcs, mordor and sauron".

I'll give you an example, anyone who refers to US as orcs when talking about iraq shouldn't be taken seriously either. Rather you should discuss where the policies failed, the extensive unforseen blowback and how it ended up with Iran being franchised..

Russia is similar, there is so many things, political and military aspects of the war that can be discussed/criticised. But nobody wants to do this, instead hurr durr nazis this nazi that

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Nov 25 2022 05:50pm
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Pro-russians, generally don't bring up morality to the same extent. You should read the comments, there are several pro-Russians that are still balanced and understand the background context.

Having a bias, isn't wrong, everyone does. The problem is when you simplify the conflict into "orcs, mordor and sauron".

I'll give you an example, anyone who refers to US as orcs when talking about iraq shouldn't be taken seriously either. Rather you should discuss where the policies failed, the extensive unforseen blowback and how it ended up with Iran being franchised..

Russia is similar, there is so many things, political and military aspects of the war that can be discussed/criticised. But nobody wants to do this, instead hurr durr nazis this nazi that



Never insulted russians, never called them nazis, but that doesn’t stop you from using insults. I don’t think you’re worth talking to with all that insecurity over being confronted.
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Nov 25 2022 05:55pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 02:50am)
Never insulted russians, never called them nazis, but that doesn’t stop you from using insults. I don’t think you’re worth talking to with all that insecurity over being confronted.


:bonk: Everyone of your comments is about "moral highground", and god guiding an official "approval". LOL

And talking about complete fantasy shit. Neither ukranians or russians would ever allow a legitimate referedum in any place.
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 02:11am)
A moral high ground? Maybe for pushing for an honest referendum in separatist regions. When it comes to an invasion and an all-out war, I don’t see how you could pretend they have any kind of moral high ground.


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