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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 26 Nov 2022 05:43)
Do you?

Maybe you're just sitting on the fence in a situation that appears clear cut to me. A quick glance at recent posts kinda hints towards blind support towards Russia & China and outright hate against some posters here that are pro-Ukraine.


There is no black and white. And there is always a fence . Please notice those guys who are am having a outright banter is usually Meanwhile the Frenchie and Palasan / Lvivz the propaganda spamming troll.
Just because I believe that the War is triggered by USA foreign policies doesn't mean that I support Russia's invasion.

And if you are going to use the term blind support, so does everyone who gives support the West for example as well. It goes both ways. My country's philosophy has always been treading on good foreign diplomacy and do not choose sides.
But we do point out what we think and why things happen. We have a very neutral philosophy where I was being brought up.
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There is no black and white. And there is always a fence . Please notice those guys who are am having a outright banter is usually Meanwhile the Frenchie and Palasan / Lvivz the propaganda spamming troll.
Just because I believe that the War is triggered by USA foreign policies doesn't mean that I support Russia's invasion.

And if you are going to use the term blind support, so does everyone who gives support the West for example as well. It goes both ways. My country's philosophy has always been treading on good foreign diplomacy and do not choose sides.
But we do point out what we think and why things happen. We have a very neutral philosophy where I was being brought up.


Thank you for clarifying your thoughts for me. As for the propaganda part, I suppose you hold the same view on posters spamming pro-Russia propaganda, correct? Would be weird to claim neutrality and only bash one side...
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 25 Nov 2022 16:43)

Are you in favor of America's invasion of Iraq? If you aren't then wouldn't that be hypocritical to support Russia doing "the same"? If you do support America's invasion then I guess you're consistent in your warmongering stance.


No I'm not, and I'm not in favour of Russia's invasion of Ukraine either. But if one is acceptable and without repercussion then it is hypocrisy for the other to not be. The nations whining about Russia have no moral high ground, and noone else cares. War has been a constant throughout history. Asking me to get pissed off about Ukraine but ignore Yemen and Syria and Palestine doesn't fly. I will always call out hypocrisy, even if I'm against all parties in a conflict. The West is extremely hypocritical. Russia is no saint, but Russia isn't being a hypocrite either.
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Thank you for clarifying your thoughts for me. As for the propaganda part, I suppose you hold the same view on posters spamming pro-Russia propaganda, correct? Would be weird to claim neutrality and only bash one side...


I am a Singaporean mate.

My country's response to Ukraine Invasion.



We also voted against Panama invasion by the United States.

We also jail communists in my country Detention without trial

There is a lot of things we do and think. Just not the usual sucking up to some of the Western Values.

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No I'm not, and I'm not in favour of Russia's invasion of Ukraine either. But if one is acceptable and without repercussion then it is hypocrisy for the other to not be. The nations whining about Russia have no moral high ground, and noone else cares. War has been a constant throughout history. Asking me to get pissed off about Ukraine but ignore Yemen and Syria and Palestine doesn't fly. I will always call out hypocrisy, even if I'm against all parties in a conflict. The West is extremely hypocritical. Russia is no saint, but Russia isn't being a hypocrite either.



You do realize that basically no one here supports the war in Iraq correct? They don't claim a moral high ground on America's behalf, they claim that Russia's actions are unacceptable. Even though I'm no fan of Meanwhile (Saucisson6000) he's usually consistant in his anti-war stance, whether it involves Russia or the US.


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 25 2022 04:56pm)
I am a Singaporean mate.

My country's response to Ukraine Invasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdKBff8Rjag

We also voted against Panama invasion by the United States.

We also jail communists in my country Detention without trial

There is a lot of things we do and think. Just not the usual sucking up to some of the Western Values.


Unless you speak for your government, I don't think you're expected to be okay with everything they do. I was mostly wondering why your posts seemed so one-sided in Russia's favor and how quickly you jumped at some posters who were pro-Ukraine in this conflict.

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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 26 Nov 2022 05:56)
You do realize that basically no one here supports the war in Iraq correct? They don't claim a moral high ground on America's behalf, they claim that Russia's actions are unacceptable. Even though I'm no fan of Meanwhile (Saucisson6000) he's usually consistant in his anti-war stance, whether it involves Russia or the US.


But Sauceman is on another level. It makes a blanket statement on your entire culture just because you have different thoughts and look at things differently.
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 12:56am)
You do realize that basically no one here supports the war in Iraq correct? They don't claim a moral high ground on America's behalf, they claim that Russia's actions are unacceptable. Even though I'm no fan of Meanwhile (Saucisson6000) he's usually consistant in his anti-war stance, whether it involves Russia or the US.


Ok so, after the "crazy Nazi actions of Bush and Blair in Iraq" you decided to do it again in Libya, and before that in Syria, etc The greatest measurement of accountability, is repeating the same thing over and over under new "democratically" elected governments.

Essentially, everything in US happens because 1 guy went temporarily insane and committed evil. So why can't Russia have their shot at temporarily insanity caused by Putin?

Not gonna lie, every now and then I open this topic and read a few comments and you guys are gurgling on the same low-iq monkey shit, inept, idiotic, morally selective, iron-level views.

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Ok so, after the "crazy Nazi actions of Bush and Blair in Iraq" you decided to do it again in Libya, and before that in Syria, etc

Essentially, everything in US happens because 1 guy went temporarily insane and committed evil. So why can't Russia have their shot at temporarily insanity caused by Putin?



Two wrongs don't make a right. Seing how you're so opposed to wars waged by America it's curious how you don't decide to apply the same logic for Russia.
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 25 Nov 2022 16:56)
You do realize that basically no one here supports the war in Iraq correct? They don't claim a moral high ground on America's behalf, they claim that Russia's actions are unacceptable. Even though I'm no fan of Meanwhile (Saucisson6000) he's usually consistant in his anti-war stance, whether it involves Russia or the US.


It doesn't matter whether anyone here supports Iraq or not. The hypocrisy is what makes Ukraine a farce. Where was NATO in condemning the Iraq invasion and sanctioning the US? Why is it ok for the US to screw country after country over all around the world but when Russia deals with an unfriendly coup on the borders it's suddenly a huge deal?

Canada at least still had some balls regarding Iraq and refused to participate, but that was the limit of Canada's reaction. Unfortunately we then got a right wing American puppet for a PM and now we have a left wing American puppet for a PM and we just keep following along like a lost puppy.
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Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 26 2022 01:04am)
Two wrongs don't make a right. Seing how you're so opposed to wars waged by America it's curious how you don't decide to apply the same logic for Russia.


1. What do you mean two wrongs? Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, how does that add up to 2?

2. Who said I am opposed to US or Russians wagning war?

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 25 2022 04:05pm
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