Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 25 2022 05:01pm)

The thing is when you are comfortable for too long, you tend to procrastinate. A society needs to improve , if the leaders and government of a country doesn't try to help improve the lives of the citizens and guide them into a more advance civilization, you will have problem.
The sad thing is, if you look at some Western countries. Every time they have a problem, they don't look at themselves, they point fingers at others. In a way , they have to do this because they need votes and they want to stay in power as it is lucrative for them.
Long term , they will self destruct, instead of solving domestic problems they just blame someone else.

This is not new. If you do a bit of research , just look at Japan. Japan was a good example. Look at her progress and her economy, how she almost became the No.1 Economical power in the 70s and 80s and What happened.
Japan was lucky that the internet wasn't invented yet.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 25 2022 04:23pm)

The sad thing about this is USA decisions, lets be honest, they triggered this war and they have been preparing for this for ages.
Let me make a fair statement, if the US Considered the Chinese as a threat , they should have just improved their relationship with the Russians which Trump actually did.
I will always make this statement. IF Trump was still the President this war highly likely might not have happened.

There will be certain deals make with Russia to deal with the Chinese as well. Long story short, they pushed both China and Russia closer together to take them on at the same time which is a strategical mistake, waging both economical and military war with both countries.
While at the same time weakening the EU who are their staunch allies.

This will not go well.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 26 Nov 2022 05:32)

So Russia bears no responsibility for invading Ukraine and waging war for the last 9 months?

Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 25 2022 05:18pm)

Why are you jumping on me ?

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Oh fucking lol.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 25 Nov 2022 16:32)

So Russia bears no responsibility for invading Ukraine and waging war for the last 9 months?

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 25 2022 04:35pm)

Don't put words in my mouth mate, I never denied Russia's responsibilities.

Quote (Vastet @ Nov 25 2022 04:38pm)

Of course Russia bears responsibility. That isn't in question. The problem is they don't bear the majority of responsibility. This is literally the Cuban missile crisis all over again where the US screams about Russia and poo poos the missiles they installed in Turkey. Russia has the right to self defence.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 26 Nov 2022 05:31)

Interesting narrative. Things have gone reasonably well for the US and EU for around 70 years. Trump not being president, is kind of irrelevant.
Putin invaded Ukraine for motivating factors not including what decisions the US has made.

At bold. Lol.

This will be known as Putins war. Not even all Russian support it.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 26 Nov 2022 05:38)

When all your posts try to move the responsibility away from Russia and the war crimes commited then it's essentially what you're saying yeah.

Maybe I don't understand your point of view, but I don't see how anyone could support Russia in a situation like this, even if you think the US triggered the war.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ 25 Nov 2022 16:38)

When all your posts try to move the responsibility away from Russia and the war crimes commited then it's essentially what you're saying yeah.

Maybe I don't understand your point of view, but I don't see how anyone could support Russia in a situation like this, even if you think the US triggered the war.



I agree they have a right to self-defense. Invading a neighboring country isn't self-defense.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 25 2022 04:40pm)

Show me a comment that i made that I out right support Russia for the invasion.

Quote (Vastet @ Nov 25 2022 04:41pm)

It sure is, as demonstrated by the US And UK invasion of Iraq. Precedent has been set, and Russia is justified.