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Nov 24 2022 02:27pm
Quote (said_aouita @ 25 Jan 2022 10:12)
Yup. Again, why is Russia invading a neighbor US-EU's fault? What about when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014? Who's fault was that?

fyi - Ukraine hasn't joined NATO, and Putin doesn't get to decide who defends Ukraine.

And to add, the Warsaw Pact dissolved over 30 years ago.


America's. Russia was defending it's strategic interests by seizing the port.
Putin has as much say in who defends Ukraine as anyone else in power.
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Nov 24 2022 02:29pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 25 Nov 2022 04:22)
You don't seem to understand. If the US is not the top global power. China will 100% be your problem. Maybe we can live in acommunist dystopia.
Or maybe a Uyghur concentration camp? Maybe that will make you more grateful.


1. Already debunked , they are not spreading communisim , they don't care what the F your country's political ideologue is , they will still do business with you, import export. The only country that is spreading their so called Democracy and Human Rights is big daddy USA.
And recently for the past ten years , their LGBTQ Pro Plus , Black Little Mermaid diversity ideology.

2. This is their eternal problem, they view them as extremist and separatist while you guys view them as freedom fighters. While those that are planning or are extremist or have done terror activities in your country are somewhere in some concentration camp and in the states the famous Guantanamo bay which is somehow located in cuba.
Those that are locked there are not freedom fighters but terrorists. ;)

I am grateful at the moment that my favorite Character in my Chinese Kung Fu movie is not being cast by a transgender for inclusion purpose.

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Nov 24 2022 02:32pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 24 2022 08:24pm)
China does not want to invade other countries, it just wants to be number 1. Russia does not want to invade other countries either, its ruler simply has an inferiority complex.


I didn't say China wanted to invade other countries.
But if somebody thinks their quality of life is not good in a western democracy.
God forbid they wake up without any opposition to a communist dystopia.
China is "re-educating" hundreds of thousands of it's own citizens.
People who even try to document the activities could disappear in an instant, never to be seen or heard from again.

If they show such disdain for their own citizens how long would Pisior last complaining of his own cultures hypocrisy?

I'd hazard a guess, not very long.
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Nov 24 2022 02:34pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 24 2022 08:32pm)
I didn't say China wanted to invade other countries.
But if somebody thinks their quality of life is not good in a western democracy.
God forbid they wake up without any opposition to a communist dystopia.
China is "re-educating" hundreds of thousands of it's own citizens.
People who even try to document the activities could disappear in an instant, never to be seen or heard from again.

If they show such disdain for their own citizens how long would Pisior last complaining of his own cultures hypocrisy?

I'd hazard a guess, not very long.


quality of life is a relative thing. i 100% agree with you that quality of life in western society is better then elsewhere, and in china for minorities they are no worse then the congo. actually, probably, worse (and the congo is bad).
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 24 2022 09:32pm)
I didn't say China wanted to invade other countries.
But if somebody thinks their quality of life is not good in a western democracy.
God forbid they wake up without any opposition to a communist dystopia.
China is "re-educating" hundreds of thousands of it's own citizens.
People who even try to document the activities could disappear in an instant, never to be seen or heard from again.

If they show such disdain for their own citizens how long would Pisior last complaining of his own cultures hypocrisy?

I'd hazard a guess, not very long.


but this is not our problem... personaly, i try to be on my problem, i m not looking on the neighbour

e: quality of life, in china people live 100 year ++ , all their food are good, their people are not on overweight

but once again the dependance got always a price, if you are not doing yourself yoru food, you must pay.

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Quote (ferdia @ 25 Nov 2022 04:34)
quality of life is a relative thing. i 100% agree with you that quality of life in western society is better then elsewhere, and in china for minorities they are no worse then the congo. actually, probably, worse (and the congo is bad).


Not entirely true..

There is a saying in China from my China friends. Those that benefits are amongst the following order but in Mandarin language.

1. Govt Official
2. literati
3. Minorities
4. Han Chinese

But than again if only even 10% of China is living below poverty line, that is going to be quite obvious , because that is around 130 to 140 million people out of 1.4 B

Minorities in China have similar protection and affirmative action laws like those in the US.

And also it is true that quality of life can be better in the West. I agree
But the West where ?

Canada : Yes
Australia and New Zealand : Yes ( I studied in Melbourne and my wife is Australian )
America ? ( If you are staying in Martha Vineyard kind of places and enclaves absolutely )
England ? ( Mehhhhhhhh )
Europe ( NOT EU ) , Switzerland : Yes , Luxembourg : Yes , Austria ( Probably ), Germany : Depends where . Well with all the influx of migrants I guess you know what I mean.
Scandinavian countries : Norway : Yes, Finland, Sweden and Denmark : Well lets read some news on what is happening there with their migrants :)

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Quote (ferdia @ 24 Nov 2022 21:24)
China does not want to invade other countries, it just wants to be number 1. Russia does not want to invade other countries either, its ruler simply has an inferiority complex.


So how many million people Putin needs to further enslave to satisfy his "inferirority complex"?
And if Putin is indeed sick, why do we even consider giving him millions slaves?
Tell him "no Mr Putin, you cant attack other countries, you cant enslave millions people, its all wrong, we wont let you do bad things"
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Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 24 2022 08:44pm)
So how many million people Putin needs to further enslave to satisfy his "inferirority complex"?
And if Putin is indeed sick, why do we even consider giving him millions slaves?
Tell him "no Mr Putin, you cant attack other countries, you cant enslave millions people, its all wrong, we wont let you do bad things"


ok
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Nov 24 2022 02:50pm
Also back to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
This notion that Putin invaded because Ukraine wanted to join NATO or the EU.
Is a total sham, blame passing argument.

The Baltic countries already joined NATO and the EU.
They are closer to Moscow and St Petersburg than Ukraine.
Kaliningrad is literally surrounded by EU countries.
Putin knows NATO would never invade Russia, it's a defensive alliance. Total nonsense to suggest Ukraine joining NATO would be any more of a threat to Russia than Estonia and Latvia joining NATO.

There are motivating factors above blocking Ukraine from joining NATO or the EU.
Both of which they were far from being accepted into before the 2022 invasion.

1. Resources. Mainly Ariable land and natural gas.
With Ukraine under its control Russia could control upwards or 40% of the worlds grain supply. Likely higher.
The natural gas deposits in eastern Ukraine are sizeable. And although Russia has plenty of it's own, it does not want a competitor undermining its transit and supply of energy.

2. Solidifying his own grip on power. In recent decades we have seen the removal of authoritarian dictators. Saddam. Gaddafi. Bashads regime in Syria survived by the skin of its teeth.
Protests in Khazakstan over fuel price increases led to protestors being shot and nationwide social media blackouts.
The same happened in Belarus after it's own dictators sham elections.

Putin is no dummy. He knows he needs an external enemy to consolidate his own power base.
What better than Nazis in a country that used to be under Soviet control. Regions with large amounts of Russian speakers.
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Nov 24 2022 02:57pm
ok but if usa , with england, destroyed nordstream, what does that mean for europen country?

england is not on euro now... its really possible they wanted ( and they didd it) to fuck us....
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