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#1761
Dec 27 2019 02:57pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 27 2019 12:56pm)
Imagine your whole arguing of quid pro quo hinging on something that never happened. Aid was delivered therefore to construct some what if scenarios of something that never materialized is some next level tds reaching.


also Trump sent them missiles to destroy russian tanks and other equipment (even before this second aid package came up), when Obama refused to.

yet Trump is a Russian asset :unsure:

This post was edited by proccy on Dec 27 2019 02:58pm
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#1762
Dec 27 2019 03:14pm
this thread should just be closed tbh. its just both sides shitposting with almost zero worthwhile discussion. move on to dogmeat people.
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#1763
Dec 27 2019 03:27pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 27 2019 02:56pm)
Imagine your whole arguing of quid pro quo hinging on something that never happened. Aid was delivered therefore to construct some what if scenarios of something that never materialized is some next level tds reaching.


Aid was delivered after it became a headline that aid was being withheld as a political tool and investigations had started. How does stopping after you got caught exonerate you of responsibility?
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#1764
Dec 27 2019 03:33pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 27 2019 03:27pm)
Aid was delivered after it became a headline that aid was being withheld as a political tool and investigations had started. How does stopping after you got caught exonerate you of responsibility?


You still have to prove the aid was released because of these investigations being started. Theres plenty of other potential reasons for the time of its release.
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#1765
Dec 27 2019 03:34pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 27 2019 03:56pm)
Imagine your whole arguing of quid pro quo hinging on something that never happened. Aid was delivered therefore to construct some what if scenarios of something that never materialized is some next level tds reaching.


Imagine having this big an idiot on a jury. Lol.
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Dec 27 2019 03:34pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 27 2019 01:14pm)
this thread should just be closed tbh. its just both sides shitposting with almost zero worthwhile discussion. move on to dogmeat people.


pard 2019.... i remember it being better than this. probably because i posted less, kek
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#1767
Dec 27 2019 03:35pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 27 2019 04:27pm)
Aid was delivered after it became a headline that aid was being withheld as a political tool and investigations had started. How does stopping after you got caught exonerate you of responsibility?


It was delivered and withheld on an intermittent basis for the past ten years.
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#1768
Dec 27 2019 03:35pm
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 27 2019 01:29pm)
It's funny how cultists shift back and forth between "he didn't do it" and "he'll not face political consequences". As if the latter somehow doesn't reflect poorly on him, his enablers in Congress, and his voters.

It's basically admitting "yeah, we're a cult, what are you going to do about it". In the words of George Bush... that's some weird shit.


I've only ever had one position. I don't care, because he's not being removed. Also he probably didn't do it, media is a joke, tough to convince me of anything when you lost your credibility a decade ago.

Trump is still going to be ur president, and it still isn't going to do anything but make your life better. Keep on losing, loser.
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#1769
Dec 27 2019 03:36pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 27 2019 01:35pm)
It was delivered and withheld on an intermittent basis for the past ten years.


obama sends blankets, trump sends missiles.

trump = russian asset


this is the modern way of seeing the situation
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#1770
Dec 27 2019 03:39pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 27 2019 01:37pm)
why would who it's up to change whether he's an "opponent"?

potential opponents are a type of opponent.

i agree they have a lot bigger fish to fry, but that doesnt change that Biden is a political opponent to Trump.

you made a silly assertion.

AOC is a political opponent for Trump, and she's not in the democratic primary at all.



are they opponents in the 2020 presidential election? not yet, maybe never. are the opponents in public discourse? yes. are they rivals or adversaries? of course. do they have handfuls of political disagreements where they reference each other on twitter and in speeches? of course.



as thor said, your semantic point is only "true" in such a narrow sense that it doesnt matter as a point. it's moot and disingenuous. they are political opponents in any context that matters.


at least AOC holds a seat in congress. that does put her in a position of political contention. (although i may have argued the opposite a while back here) Biden just holds little girls hair and shoulders.
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