Quote (Norlander @ 23 Nov 2022 09:51)
Don't ignore the fact that Donbass, Luhansk and Crimea were invaded 8 years ago then
By Ukraine against Ukrainians. Russia was only doing what NATO is now, which was perfectly acceptable to everyone.
Quote (Ironfister @ 23 Nov 2022 10:03)
Ukraine was a candidate to be a candidate into eu and nato.
It looks like Russian attack was a punishment for Ukraine for trying to stick and trade with the west.
West obviously doesnt like it. Imagine a country that tries to get into Russia, and nato attacks them to prevent that.
If we didnt sanction Russia, they would have won against Ukraine and attack again another country in some years.
Just as nazi A. H. did after given Austria, Czechia and Poland. We must learn from past mistakes, appeasement doesnt really work, its also terribly unfair.
Next time it will be not a nato/eu candidate, but a nato/eu full member.
Mr Putin already says that nato in Europe is illegal, it sounds like a preparation and looking for excuse for attack. Do you want ww3 or what?
Unacceptable to Russia, like Cuba or Mexico joining the Russian block would be to America. Perfectly legitimate reason for Russia to invade.
Nope, was a legitimate counter to the American hypocritical strategy that started with an illegal coup against a democratically elected government and continued with arming and training international criminals. American style.
That's literally what started this in 2014. The only difference is America did the typical American thing of getting locals and mercs to do their intended military work for them.
Russia's still winning against Ukraine.
Ridiculous Western propaganda. Russia has never made a single move to attack NATO.
Sanctions work less than appeasement even against a tiny shit hole never mind a super power. Against Russia they've backfired immensely as the Western economy has crashed and the Russian economy is already recovering.
Lies Putin has said no such thing. You are the one trying for WW3.
This post was edited by Vastet on Nov 23 2022 01:52pm