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Nov 23 2022 10:52am
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Remember how western people gave up rather quickly in ww2 and had to be saved by USA?

No, remind us.
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Nov 23 2022 11:06am
Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 23 2022 04:42pm)
Poorest nation, but a very brave one. And a very honorable one.
They could run away, but they didnt do it. They decided to stay and defend. Im not sure that western Europeans would do the same.
Remember how western people gave up rather quickly in ww2 and had to be saved by USA?
And its not really expensive clothes or iphones or beatiful houses or luxury cars fighting the war.
Ukraine has close to 1million soldiers, to contrast Germany has 62 thousand.
Also Putin wont really attack all NATO. He will attack the eastern members, and will tell the western to stay out.
What will the peaceful western people do?
I'm afraid they will behave the same way as in 1939: run away.
Only Americans and UK and eastern European have some real balls on NATO. Unfortunately Putin has some impact on USA elections.
Germany/France are too peaceful to fight, they will look for excuse to give up.


"Remember how western people gave up rather quickly in ww2 and had to be saved by USA?"

Actually the UK never surrendered and was sending tons of supplies to the USSR. Without the UK, Moscow and St. Petersburg would have ceased to exist.
Please do history, even just once.

As for Russia attacking a NATO country. Go ahead, we'll wait.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 23 2022 11:06am
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Nov 23 2022 11:11am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 23 Nov 2022 20:06)
"Remember how western people gave up rather quickly in ww2 and had to be saved by USA?"

Actually the UK never surrendered and was sending tons of supplies to the USSR. Without the UK, Moscow and St. Petersburg would have ceased to exist.
Please do history, even just once.

As for Russia attacking a NATO country. Go ahead, we'll wait.


It also works vice versa. Without sending USSR tons of supply UK would have ceased to exist.
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Nov 23 2022 11:20am
Quote (Norlander @ Nov 23 2022 05:11pm)
It also works vice versa. Without sending USSR tons of supply UK would have ceased to exist.


I'm talking about this -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_convoys_of_World_War_II#:~:text=About%201%2C400%20merchant%20ships%20delivered%20essential%20supplies%20to,six%20destroyers%2C%20eight%20other%20escort%20ships%29%20were%20lost.


Not sure what you are referring to, but I'm fairly sure those in Leningrad had nothing to send the UK, or a navy capable of sending it.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 23 2022 11:21am
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Nov 23 2022 11:26am
Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 23 2022 07:42pm)
Poorest nation, but a very brave one. And a very honorable one.
They could run away, but they didnt do it. They decided to stay and defend. Im not sure that western Europeans would do the same.
Remember how western people gave up rather quickly in ww2 and had to be saved by USA?
And its not really expensive clothes or iphones or beatiful houses or luxury cars fighting the war.
Ukraine has close to 1million soldiers, to contrast Germany has 62 thousand.
Also Putin wont really attack all NATO. He will attack the eastern members, and will tell the western to stay out.
What will the peaceful western people do?
I'm afraid they will behave the same way as in 1939: run away.
Only Americans and UK and eastern European have some real balls on NATO. Unfortunately Putin has some impact on USA elections.
Germany/France are too peaceful to fight, they will look for excuse to give up.


When people say shit like this, they lose all creditability. Lend and lease has always been overstated for propaganda reasons, it accounted for like what 5-10% of total USSR weapons.

Definitely saved a million soviets, but its not what decided the war.

US was also the reason Media/babylon won against Assyria right? Imagine saying "US" won the war, when Soviets and Germany were annihilating each other for 4 years straight mercilessly.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 23 2022 11:32am
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Nov 23 2022 11:29am
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Nov 23 2022 12:07pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 23 Nov 2022 18:06)
"Remember how western people gave up rather quickly in ww2 and had to be saved by USA?"

Actually the UK never surrendered and was sending tons of supplies to the USSR. Without the UK, Moscow and St. Petersburg would have ceased to exist.
Please do history, even just once.

As for Russia attacking a NATO country. Go ahead, we'll wait.


UK didnt surrender, but 10 other countries did.
Im talking about general situation, UK was a sole exception to this.
And now in 2022 once again UK shows balls, while France, Germany and some other countries mainly want to stop the war, even if the outcome isn't good.
History repeats itself.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Nov 23 2022 12:08pm
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Nov 23 2022 12:27pm
Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 23 2022 06:07pm)
UK didnt surrender, but 10 other countries did.
Im talking about general situation, UK was a sole exception to this.
And now in 2022 once again UK shows balls, while France, Germany and some other countries mainly want to stop the war, even if the outcome isn't good.
History repeats itself.


Not aware of this. There will be pressure on politicians in EU to seek any war to end. As it will affect industry and cause challenges with energy supply in general.

Make no mistake, NATO countries and especially their militaries are fine with the war continuing.

France is opposed to the war but more indifferent than others.
Germany has been naive and under invested in defence for generations. Meanwhile being over exposed to Russian manipulation of energy supply.
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Nov 23 2022 12:33pm
Ghost of Kyev

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Nov 23 2022 12:39pm
Quote (Norlander @ 23 Nov 2022 19:33)
Ghost of Kyev

https://i.imgur.com/6nhJnHq.jpg


In kintergarden bombed by russians ?


This one is funny too:

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