WSJ reporting that Saudi Arabia and China in talks to transact oil in yuan.

Huge

Edit: sounds like this was in the works for years but it might actually be happening now with the great divide

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Mar 15 2022 09:36am

It really is amazing how fast lefties on here switch to being ultra war hawks when their pants pooper is in the white house. They have no principles.

In Western media: Russia has, without warning, invaded Ukraine. In Russian news, Russia is carrying out a military operation (not war) in Ukraine. Both of those stories are bullshit. In unaligned countries (i.e. India, China etc.) or by easily reading up on the issues (on AMERICAN WEBSITES) Russia invaded due to its concerns re: Nato expansion. I am more inclined to believe unaligned views / informed views, which are supported by 10 years of history, then the views of nations that are actively involved noting both sides are producing utter bullshit.

Russia IS systematically flattening parts of Ukraine. There IS a massive exodus from Ukraine and it IS a humanitarian crisis. The west is responding via humanitarian aid, sanctions, military aid (not officially) and warnings. The Sanctions and military aid and rhetoric in the media / political level all appear to be deeply flawed and to my mind only perpetuate and escalate the conflict. i DONT understand our western strategy here (from a geopolitical standpoint).

The west does not want to officially provide military aid as to do so invites escalation outside of the boarders of Ukraine. i.e. Nato vs Russia. I have NO CLUE where this will end. I expect it will only end once Putin feels that he has achieved what he set out to do. i.e. to prevent Ukraine in its boarder pre-war to join Nato / EU / relationship / deeper ties with EU. Therefore the whole idea of talks between Ukraine and Russia were both sides are "moving closer to each other" makes ZERO sense and is all complete crap to my mind.

That is not being an apologist of Russia or Putin, its stating an assessment of the situation and questioning the current "spin" "media" and the eventual outcome.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 15 2022 09:42am

it will probably end when putin gets kiew. regarding nato and western countries, teh fault lies on biden (very weak leader, just as obama was in 2014 with crimeea) and germany (schultz is merkel 2.0, russian prostitutes).

regarding the russia motive to invade, quote all of them, they are denazifying the country, 14000 genocide committed by Ukraine and so on.

and again, biden could have stopped all of this if nato (basically USA is running nato) would have frozen or suspended or denied ukraine's application.

your reading comprehension sucks big time. you said russia "had no other option", that starting a war was "inevitable". that is just factually wrong. you're just mindlessly repeating your silly bothsidesisms and dodging my question:

what exactly made it impossible for russia to withdraw their troops and not start a war? why do you insist that was not an option?

This post was edited by fender on Mar 15 2022 09:47am

when they saw your prostitute leaders merkel, von der leyen and schultz grovelling at their feet for oil and gas prices.

I believe I already provided a view to this previously, perhaps you should read the topic from the start, and watch that video. If you are incapable of doing this, I will however repeat the rationale, on request.

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This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 15 2022 09:58am

Only prostitutes here are Romanian Shitmultis' leaders.

in sports teams always have the option to just lose, rather than playing dirty. when was the last time Russia didnt cheat in sports?

AFAIK (in the last 40~ years or so ok) russia always cheated in sports, and so did america, but america typically does not get caught, i.e. they cheat, or, play the game, better. There is probably an analogy there if someone cared to look for it. its generally accepted that every professional cyclist in the tour de france takes performance enhancing drugs.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 15 2022 10:01am