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Nov 22 2022 10:57am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 21 2022 10:36pm)
^Djunior

Please refrain personal attacks, especially when these are based on RT ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network) ) "conclusions" based on a "UN official admits to Lack of Ukraine rape evidence in prank call"

When an Accusation of Disinformation Is Disinformation: Russia’s Tangled Web

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/international/when-an-accusation-of-disinformation-is-disinformation-russias-tangled-web/

And don't be so butthurt because of this; https://i.gyazo.com/dd52edbb948dcc3ad366f93f6d3a524c.png

Have a nice day, and good trip to Russia ! :huh:


Quote (Palasan @ Nov 21 2022 10:39pm)
LOL grayzone a.k.a yellowpress, video where some woman who isn't even the original source saying she didn't see it with her own eyes, and random twit by a random dude

what a debunk lmao


That scumbag UN official or whatever has got NO PROOF WHATSOEVER and was told this story by (drumroll) UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS

Russians going door to door loaded with Viagra provided to them by the Kremlin. Just imagine being such propaganda tools that you actually believe this shit. SMH

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Nov 22 2022 12:46pm
Quote (Palasan @ 22 Nov 2022 10:26)
I saw you with a wrench when "you shutted down" nuclear reactors and picked up the spade to burn coal.


Wouldn't waste time trying to explain anything to the likes of Melatonina who thinks Germany is crushed, he is a rural Belgian farmer with rotten teeth, who is only aware of how to drive a tractor expressing his low iq in broken english about nuclear reactor policies.


I was trying to explain since Europe's energy policy is an important issue with deep repercussions for the war. For example, when the Greens-led German ministry of energy decided to go through with finally shutting down our nuclear power plants in spite of the ongoing energy crisis, it was based on a tight calculation which basically went "the French plants will come back online, our gas situation is better than expected, our industry and households are saving enough to make it work - we don't need the excess energy produced by our nuclear plants and can therefore shut them down after the winter".

Well, guess what, Ukraine's energy infrastructure has suffered widespread destruction since then and they would desperately need energy imports from Europe (the grids were connected months ago), so some "excess" energy in the EU's grid would come in really handy right now. Even during wartime, they are putting their braindead ideology above redundancy and energy security. Of course it goes without saying that just restoring power supply lines would be far easier for Ukraine than repairing their damaged power plants.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 22 Nov 2022 10:21)
shutting down our nuclear power plants [is] completely retarded policy


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Quote (Djunior @ Nov 22 2022 05:57pm)
That scumbag UN official or whatever has got NO PROOF WHATSOEVER and was told this story by (drumroll) UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS

Russians going door to door loaded with Viagra provided to them by the Kremlin. Just imagine being such propaganda tools that you actually believe this shit. SMH

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yes he is a troll

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Nov 22 2022 01:38pm
"There is an attack with drones," the governor of the Sevastopol administrative region in Crimea, installed by Moscow, Mikhail Razvojayev, said on Telegram. "Our air defense forces are working right now." He said two drones had "already been shot down" and no civilian infrastructure was damaged.



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Nov 22 2022 05:38pm
The main target was Balaklava power plant, Razvozhaev says
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Quote (Djunior @ Nov 22 2022 06:57pm)
That scumbag UN official or whatever has got NO PROOF WHATSOEVER and was told this story by (drumroll) UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS

Russians going door to door loaded with Viagra provided to them by the Kremlin. Just imagine being such propaganda tools that you actually believe this shit. SMH

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lmao plenty of proof, Russian savages have been using viagra systematically, you posting yellow press propaganda as an argument is laughable. Disgusting filthy viagra rapist enabler, hopefully someone invades your mothers house and does the same to her XD

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Nov 22 2022 06:33pm
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Lmao Djunior the monkey thinks this guy is a valid source, pathetic fool. Drinking straight from Russian propaganda puddle.

"Lets listen to guy writing for Russia Today and being paid by Kremlin outlets"

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Nov 22 2022 07:23pm
Says the guy drinking from the American propaganda puddle.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 21 2022 08:58pm)
Lol, now we've become so meta that the "accuse the enemy of what you are doing"-principle is applied to itself.

And yet you cannot respond to the substance there. The US predicted a short war against the Russian economy while proclaiming Russia was seeking to sack Kiev in 3 days. The inverse is true.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 21 2022 08:58pm)
Big doubt. Also, there is no denying that Russia's economy is only weathering the sanctions better than initially expected because of the absolutely bonkers oil and gas prices. Once these prices come down from their uncertainty-driven peak, Russia's economy and state finances will hurt a lot more than they do currently.

I have no interest in revisiting this, I've posted probably a dozen articles over the past few months and I can't recall you responding to a single one.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 21 2022 08:58pm)
Ngl, I just spit out my coffee reading this. If you seriously think Chinese cars are a proper replacement for BMWs and Mercedes, you are delusional.

Not what I meant. Lada production is subject to some quality downgrades that Korean and Chinese cars are not.

Mercedes and BMWs are status products, they don't offer any substantive quality advantages over a Kia except perhaps a greater ability to violate speeding laws.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 21 2022 08:58pm)
So why blow up one pipeline network while leaving multiple others (particularly the ground based ones) intact? And why blow up NS so early, before the protests gain steam, which potentially left enough time to repair the pipelines before the public pressure from a freezing and starving populace forces European governments to fold?

They blew them up when they did because they had assets in the area for their military exercises.

They don't care about overland pipelines because they run through client states.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 21 2022 08:58pm)
I have a bold idea: maybe, just maybe the European people prefer the US over Russia not because of a nefarious, decades-long psyop, but rather because the people in Western Europe were free and prospered after the war. Meanwhile, the people in Eastern Europe were saddled with an uncompetitive and stagnating economy, no freedom of movement or expression, had to be prevented from deserting by an Iron Curtain and saw multiple protest movements violently quelled by Russian tanks.

The opposite of everything you just said is true, but I don't feel like debating it with someone like you. Look up the Years Of Lead if you want an entry point into the freedom and openness the West offered postwar Europe.
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Quote (Palasas @ Nov 22 2022 04:25pm)
Grayzone and Blumenthal

Simple fact is that the Grayzone provides journalism that covers things the entirety of Western journalism will never touch.

Once the Grayzone was deprecated on Wikipedia, entire articles were cleansed of multiple paragraphs of factual information about people like Adrian Zenz, for example. Nothing the Grayzone wrote about Zenz is wrong, but they were all things that the NYT or WaPo or The Guardian would never report on because they go against the media campaign against China, in that particular case.


(And it's worth reading the :talk page for that, it's a protracted liberal struggle session where the anti-Grayzone types can't really level anything that matches Wikipedia's own rules but nonetheless they succeeded)

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