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Nov 21 2022 10:19pm
Quote (SamTheGuru @ Nov 21 2022 08:05pm)
Are you suggesting that propaganda has been able to overtake entire countries in a relatively short space of time and brainwash historically neutral countries into a different way of thinking? The Russian Military doctrine which is clearly available on the internet is very must against expansion of NATO. Yet NATO continues to expand whilst this conflict goes on.

Not sure what you mean here. The US domination of European political thought is a project that's been operating in earnest since the end of WW2. European countries face almost complete subsumption of their 'civil societies' by American NGOs and cultural capital. The CIA and then the NED have dumped billions of dollars into capturing European politics and culture.

Just look up Operation Gladio.

Or more recently, consider that a year ago to the day, the US's efforts to secretly scuttle a multi-billion dollar submarine deal between France and Australia culminated. Macron seemed very mad, even recalled the ambassador to Washington. 4 months later he followed the US into an economic war much worse than the 50 billion lost in the sub deal. They're all puppets, some of them are better at obfuscation.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 21 2022 08:07pm)
Also most Germany's main exports i.e Cars and Chips are to USA and China.

https://i.imgur.com/dNuJ5D7l.jpg

30% of almost everything Germany exports goes to China. If they follow the US off that cliff when the war with Taiwan happens, they're going to be resorting to cannibalism within 3 years. (That's an exaggeration, but not by much.)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LDclaJwkz8

LOL

Obv I mean no Russian official said this. And I don't speak Russian, so I'm just going to assume this is more fake shit from PARD's resident Nazi. Not a neo-Nazi, just a regular 1940s Hitler-Was-Misunderstood Nazi.

This post was edited by kusotarre1 on Nov 21 2022 10:22pm
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Nov 21 2022 10:26pm
Former Russian major Sergei Kadatsky, who had been serving a 15 year sentence for murder of his wife, went to Wagner, died in Ukraine and was awarded with medal "For Courage", decision on assignment of which is signed by president.




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Not sure what you mean here. The US domination of European political thought is a project that's been operating in earnest since the end of WW2. European countries face almost complete subsumption of their 'civil societies' by American NGOs and cultural capital. The CIA and then the NED have dumped billions of dollars into capturing European politics and culture.

Just look up Operation Gladio.

Or more recently, consider that a year ago to the day, the US's efforts to secretly scuttle a multi-billion dollar submarine deal between France and Australia culminated. Macron seemed very mad, even recalled the ambassador to Washington. 4 months later he followed the US into an economic war much worse than the 50 billion lost in the sub deal. They're all puppets, some of them are better at obfuscation.


We may be at cross-ends. But I often find that people in the US misunderstand the purpose of the US and often superiority complex. There is an enormous network which is mostly provided by logistics.
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Given that the Kiev ragime is replicating the Taliban when it comes to destroying heretical historical monuments, is it any wonder Russians are removing them from areas they might potentially withdraw from?

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They didn't blow it up right away because, as is always the case, every charge leveled against the enemy by the West is an inverted admission of guilt.

Lol, now we've become so meta that the "accuse the enemy of what you are doing"-principle is applied to itself.

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The Russian economy is doing much better than any major European economy.

Big doubt. Also, there is no denying that Russia's economy is only weathering the sanctions better than initially expected because of the absolutely bonkers oil and gas prices. Once these prices come down from their uncertainty-driven peak, Russia's economy and state finances will hurt a lot more than they do currently.

Also note that I have always stressed since the beginning that the economic war would be characterized by different timescales on both sides: that Russia's economic attacks against the West (namely cutting off energy supplies) would inflict their maximum potency early on, but lose their bite as time goes on; and that the Western sanctions against Russia would take time to unfold their full potential and only reach their peak potency in the medium term.

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Well, Lada production is almost back up to pre-war levels, and the higher end market is doing just fine without BMW and Mercedes, easily supplanted by Chinese and Korean brands.

Ngl, I just spit out my coffee reading this. If you seriously think Chinese cars are a proper replacement for BMWs and Mercedes, you are delusional.

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Looking at this, and rising anti-sanction sentiment starting on the fringes of the political spectrum, a decision had to be made in Washington. Would the next round of sanctions work where the last round had actually *backfired*? Would the protests remain marginal heading into a winter of uncertain intensity?
Safest choice: kablooie.

So why blow up one pipeline network while leaving multiple others (particularly the ground based ones) intact? And why blow up NS so early, before the protests gain steam, which potentially left enough time to repair the pipelines before the public pressure from a freezing and starving populace forces European governments to fold?


Quote (kusotarre1 @ 22 Nov 2022 05:19)
Not sure what you mean here. The US domination of European political thought is a project that's been operating in earnest since the end of WW2. European countries face almost complete subsumption of their 'civil societies' by American NGOs and cultural capital. The CIA and then the NED have dumped billions of dollars into capturing European politics and culture.

I have a bold idea: maybe, just maybe the European people prefer the US over Russia not because of a nefarious, decades-long psyop, but rather because the people in Western Europe were free and prospered after the war. Meanwhile, the people in Eastern Europe were saddled with an uncompetitive and stagnating economy, no freedom of movement or expression, had to be prevented from deserting by an Iron Curtain and saw multiple protest movements violently quelled by Russian tanks.



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Nov 22 2022 12:56am
The Associated Press on Monday fired a national security reporter who had provided erroneous information about a missile strike in Poland last week that resulted in a widely circulated but inaccurate news alert and story suggesting Russia was responsible for the incident.

Source: The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/11/21/james-laporta-associated-press-poland-russia-missile/
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 22 2022 04:49am)
By this logic, the US should have blown up Nord Stream right at the start of this war, or in late spring when Germany was one of the more reluctant countries in Europe to get behind a gas embargo. Why do it in late September, after the Russians had voluntarily shut the pipelines down and Germany had already spent several billions (on, e.g., floating LNG terminals) to become dependent from US gas?

In early summer, Russia started tampering with the gas tap to create soaring gas prices and sow uncertainty and fear in Europe. In late summer, they escalated by closing off the gas tap entirely. Gas prices peaked, but then, 6 weeks later, by late September, they had begun coming down again and it was increasingly looking like Europe would get over the winter without Russian gas. And that's when the Nord Stream pipelines got blown up. If it were the Americans, why at that specific point in time? If that's your explanation, the timing makes no sense whatsoever.


fixed.

lol german is so crushed. Imagine being dumb to the point of spending billions just to be able to use imported/crap, anti-ecologic shist gas from us at twice the price (at least) lmao.
Remember when these idiots shutted down nuclear plants and right after got back to use coal

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