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Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 21 2022 04:40pm)
Ad 1) making people slaves can be seen as "having an interest" imo.
Ad 2) Im not saying my country is saint. People here arent saint either. For example there is some religion over here, and religions are old and unfair.

But if you ask me to give out some rankings, like in 1-5 scale, I would give us 4- and lowest score (1) to Russia. Maybe 1+ for not actually using nukes yet, lol.
I dont blame all Russians, just as I dont blame all Germans for nazism. But my current score for Russia is 1.


You have a very child-like understanding of politics, the world doesn't work like you imagine it.

Books I recommend as starting point, they have different approaches/perspectives and view things through authors lenses so expect biases, nonetheless very insightful. :
Diplomacy
Satow's diplomatic practise
Guns, germs and steel
Foundations of geopolitics, I don't usually recommend this one, but given the conflict it can be insightful

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 21 2022 08:30am
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Quote (Palasan @ 21 Nov 2022 17:19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rheJ8IjuyO0

USSR asked Hitler to join Axis and was rejected so just you know lol, imagine how backward the shithole you crawled out of was and still is .


Then why did he accept the collaborators? Where they any superior to Soviet Army?
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Quote (Norlander @ Nov 21 2022 05:26pm)
Then why did he accept the collaborators? Where they any superior to Soviet Army?


Axis had many deals with British/French which people tend to ignore.
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Quote (Norlander @ Nov 21 2022 08:26am)
Then why did he accept the collaborators? Where they any superior to Soviet Army?


Cannon fodder mostly, + Russians love killing Russians, only thing they are any good at.
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Quote (Norlander @ 21 Nov 2022 22:26)
Then why did he accept the collaborators? Where they any superior to Soviet Army?


You can still see his stuff? Was the application useful ?
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Axis had many deals with British/French which people tend to ignore.


Neither GB/France ever asked to join the Nazi union, like Russia did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk
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Quote (Ironfister @ Nov 21 2022 03:31pm)
I literally said it 3 posts before:
Russia is only 9th populous country in the world, and also 9th world economy. Even with all their territory and their resources, they are still no#9. A mid-sized country, but not an empire.
They need people, they need economy to became an empire. Right now Russia is not much more than a gas station to the world.

Russia has unprovoked attacked peaceful people of Ukraine, and do war crimes there.
So they are lighting up the fire in Europe, not me.
If you unprovoked attack once, and succeed, then you will unprovoked attack another time and repeat it over and over.


The thing is, your views are completely nonsensical. I will give you an example, Dugin, although at times influence is overstated does have some influence. He argues that Kaliningrad should be returned to Germany, and estonia etc being under german sphere. Whilst at the same time Transnistria, belarus and ukraine becoming Russia proper. The idea is that forming a Berlin-Moscow axis with the French and a united Europe is far more favorable for everyone in Europe. He also argues that UK is an extraterritorial floating base of US which hinders unification of European security and economic apparatus ( I agree with this 100% ). Furthermore a united Europe would be able to hold itself against the 2 super powers (china / US) without being picked apart and destroyed by them.

There are many more ideas, but the thing is, none of this is about "slavery or good vs evil". Russia and Germany utterly failed at unifying Europe, with UK destroying NS1 and NS2 that is completely dead in the water. Remember when Merkle+Putin tried to stop the developing situation, minsk 1 and minsk 2? Europe is headed towards polarization and internal conflict, being divided and conquered by China/US.

Anyway this is my attempt at giving you some perspective, if your gonna be some monkey 13 iq then so be it. I don't like Dugin because his views are too biased btw, but they are insightful.

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Russian fascist deported B)
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The thing is, your views are completely nonsensical. I will give you an example, Dugin, although at times influence is overstated does have some influence. He argues that Kaliningrad should be returned to Germany whilst at the same time Transnistria and Belarus becoming Russia proper. The idea is that forming a Berlin-Moscow axis with the French and a united Europe is far more favorable for everyone in Europe. He also argues that UK is an extraterritorial floating base of US which hinders unification of European security and economic apparatus ( I agree with this 100% ). Furthermore a united Europe would be able to hold itself against the 2 super powers (china / US) without being picked apart and destroyed by them.

There are many more ideas, but the thing is, none of this is about "slavery" and taking over the world. Russia and Germany utterly failed at unifying Europe, with UK destroying NS1 and NS2 that is completely dead in the water. Europe is headed towards polarization and internal conflict.

Anyway this is my attempt at giving you some perspective, if your gonna be some monkey 13 iq then so be it.


There are two one in the West which is UK and one in the East which is Taiwan . ^_^
Not only will a United Europe be free of influence from i.e ( US/China), if I look at it this way, a United Europe will be free of influence from ( US/China/Russia) at the moment and a potential India in the future. As a matter of fact Europe can be strong enough to make sound foreign policies and decisions and not force to choose side.
A powerful European army will act as a counter balance to the world and I am not talking about Nato. Nato is basically the US Trojan horse in EU. With a few more proper military powerhouse that is reasonably free from influence by other giants, there is a chance to balance things out and makes the world a safer place.

Just my thought

And Dugin is an admirer of Mackinder's The geographical pivot of history

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Quote (Palasan @ Nov 21 2022 02:33pm)


Lmao the belgian wiki page is almost empty just like your thinking box

Yeah let's compare very small moments in history of france etc. and says it's the same as ukraine
except the latters welcomed nazis as heroes, because they were hating so much russians
and still today civil and military batallion such as Azov are in ukraine, not here you clown.
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