Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 20 2022 05:10pm)

Of course, NATO is delighted that Russia has knee-capped itself in Ukraine.
The caveat will be lend leasing arms to Ukraine and then billing Russia for them in reparations.

"The military losses right now mean nothing at all" Interesting perspective on losing dozens if not hundreds of experienced officers. Not to mention the intel they have provided on their tactics to the US and NATO.

"NATO is slowly ruining Ukraine" Strange way to look at a RUSSIAN invasion of Ukraine. Russia invaded, shelled civilians. And yet NATO is ruining Ukraine. Russia has ruined Ukraine already but at a horrendous cost to itself.

Quote (Djunior @ 21 Nov 2022 00:53)

You missed the most important part --> If NATO/US/EU didn't mess with Ukraine there wouldn't be war right now.

The situation has now escalated beyond repair. Fun fact I said so from the start of this conflict, before the war actually.

There should've been negotiations and guarantees should've been given that Ukraine would never receive NATO/EU membership.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 20 2022 04:58pm)

Too arrogant to come into any talks.
Merkel actually did a decent Job stabilizing that area after Crimea and Euromaiden.

And to be fair, I believe Trump tired to work it out with Putin and Ukraine ( I read somewhere, i might be wrong )

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 21 Nov 2022 01:07)

Nah NATO got what it wanted.
Russia got baited into Ukraine. Putin can't accept this is his Afghanistan

Quote (Djunior @ Nov 20 2022 04:53pm)

You missed the most important part --> If NATO/US/EU didn't mess with Ukraine there wouldn't be war right now.

The situation has now escalated beyond repair. Fun fact I said so from the start of this conflict, before the war actually.

There should've been negotiations and guarantees should've been given that Ukraine would never receive NATO/EU membership.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 20 2022 04:58pm)

Too arrogant to come into any talks.
Merkel actually did a decent Job stabilizing that area after Crimea and Euromaiden.

And to be fair, I believe Trump tired to work it out with Putin and Ukraine ( I read somewhere, i might be wrong )

Quote (ferdia @ 21 Nov 2022 01:31)

i think the mistake here was thinking that countries were acting in good faith. on all sides.



yea he did. the only isolationist in american politics. mad as that sounds.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 20 2022 05:34pm)

I said it alot of times before on this thread. If Trump was still President the war might not have happened.
And they will maintain a cordial and friendly relationship with Mid East.

China will find it difficult to counter Trump's government and might give in to some of the US demands.
But everything will work out in Trump's second term.

Quote (ferdia @ 21 Nov 2022 01:43)

as he wrecks their democratic pillars. but well they dont need trump to do that, they are wrecking themselves just fine regardless.
donald trump - the peace maker. who would have thought.

Quote (Djunior @ Nov 20 2022 11:39am)

Hey little shit multi, the only reason the "glorious Ukrainian heroes" (LMAO) weren't wiped out is because of unprecedented aid from the West. Therefore you can spam an old quote of mine forever but I'm still right because Ukraine can only carry on if this life support is continued non stop forever and it won't

Funny that you still don't get it but the walking corpse here is Ukraine, lol

Remember this btw? That's your glorious nazi battalion before massive Western aid, note the tossed-together equipment, old AKs and a Soviet 1960s ZU-23-2 anti air gun in the background :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/emLGN8D.jpg

Quote (Djunior @ Nov 20 2022 06:53pm)

You missed the most important part --> If NATO/US/EU didn't mess with Ukraine there wouldn't be war right now.

The situation has now escalated beyond repair. Fun fact I said so from the start of this conflict, before the war actually.

There should've been negotiations and guarantees should've been given that Ukraine would never receive NATO/EU membership.