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Dec 16 2019 10:28am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 16 2019 10:46am)
The more realistic take is that most previous presidents' agendas were largely in step with the deep state and therefore didnt see much pushback from this corner, while Trump is the first president in a long time to break with the agenda and the beliefs of all these unelected career bureaucrats - and that this is the main reason why he's experiencing so much "resistance from within".


More realistic to say that Obama, Bush 1 and 2, Clinton, Reagan, etc, all had aligning goals?
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More realistic to say that Obama, Bush 1 and 2, Clinton, Reagan, etc, all had aligning goals?


At least Reagan, Clinton and the two Bushes were all neoliberals on economic issues and followed an interventionist foreign policy. Obama shook things up a little bit, but he was largely an incrementalist in his approach.

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At least Reagan, Clinton and the two Bushes were all neoliberals on economic issues and followed an interventionist foreign policy. Obama shook things up a little bit, but he was largely an incrementalist in his approach.



Not really. Obama was a great Republican President.
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Quote (Skinned @ Dec 16 2019 06:35am)
:rolleyes:

You post a rage essay as a response to a sig which ends in "grow up".

Good luck at work today rubbing shoulders with the deep state. I bet you order your curry off the dark web too ;)


Translation: "I don't know how to respond or what constitutes as "deep state" because my talking points haven't been fed to me yet by my comfortable and safe space media sources. Therefore this is a rage essay".
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Dec 25 2019 09:37am
Quote (CarsV @ Dec 25 2019 03:18am)
Translation: "I don't know how to respond or what constitutes as "deep state" because my talking points haven't been fed to me yet by my comfortable and safe space media sources. Therefore this is a rage essay".


You have proved that you will believe the same thing about this man's misconduct no matter what you hear.

I was gonna change the sig but I see it's still working.

Save the tinfoil from the Christmas dinner ham and make a little hat sir.
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Dec 25 2019 04:54pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 16 2019 10:46am)
The more realistic take is that most previous presidents' agendas were largely in step with the deep state and therefore didnt see much pushback from this corner, while Trump is the first president in a long time to break with the agenda and the beliefs of all these unelected career bureaucrats - and that this is the main reason why he's experiencing so much "resistance from within".


As if every government agency has the same viewpoints on everything... lol.

Last time I checked the deep state/New World Order/Jews globalists wanted a tough Russia policy, a stronger NATO, more troops to the Middle East, getting serious on China, and an inflated defense budget. Are you arguing that Trump hasn't delivered on those things?

Trump supporters try to play both sides of this argument... they say the establishment hates him because of his foreign policy and simultaneously argue that he's some big toughguy on the world stage.

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As if every government agency has the same viewpoints on everything... lol.

Last time I checked the deep state/New World Order/Jews globalists wanted a tough Russia policy, a stronger NATO, more troops to the Middle East, getting serious on China, and an inflated defense budget. Are you arguing that Trump hasn't delivered on those things?

Trump supporters try to play both sides of this argument... they say the establishment hates him because of his foreign policy and simultaneously argue that he's some big toughguy on the world stage.


His foreign policy has actually been fairly consistent: rude to complacent allies, hot-and-cold diplomacy with autocratic regimes, trying to undermine international institutions, and very nationalist/isolationist when it comes to trade and interventions.
Overall, Trump has been quite the softy on the international stage if we look at his actual actions instead of the puffed up words.


His motto seems to be "talk loudly and carry a small stick." Which is actually a fitting slogan for his entire personality, not just his foreign policy. XD
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Not really. Obama was a great Republican President.


Its a shame he tried to push the overton window off a cliff to the left.
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Dec 25 2019 11:59pm
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 25 2019 10:37am)
You have proved that you will believe the same thing about this man's misconduct no matter what you hear.

I was gonna change the sig but I see it's still working.

Save the tinfoil from the Christmas dinner ham and make a little hat sir.


His misconduct is that he has poor table manners and wants to grab women by the pussy. Oh my god, people, call the cops. Somebody grab him by the balls and tell him how to conduct foreign policy! Apparently not liking somebody is grounds for impeachment.

You do recall that even before Trump assumed presidency, Democrats declared they were going to thwart and impeach him at every opportunity? This is the party you shill for.

Merry Christmas to you, too. I did get some aluminum foil stuck in my teeth from the ham.

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