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Nov 19 2022 03:10pm
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Janusz Bugajski is a senior fellow at the Jamestown Foundation in Washington, D.C.

Same outfit that employs Adrian Zenz.

Basically the only thing that still works good in America anymore is it's propaganda industry.

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it really is amazing how fast china is advancing its infrastructure.

Uyghurs will be going to China's moon base using the space elevator on Hainan island and Palasan will still be on PARD posting Falun Gong and OUN-B youtube videos.
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Nov 19 2022 03:15pm
https://cepa.org/article/its-costing-peanuts-for-the-us-to-defeat-russia/

So here's an actual, unironic, neoliberal think tank trying to do a cost benefit analysis of the Ukraine war.
Step 1) Accept the obviously fake ukrainian claims of Russian loses uncritically.
Step 2) Appraise GDP not GDP-PPP
Step 3) Ignore all energy and food and global market turmoil costs, other than to spin additional energy costs as a net positive because global warming
Step 4) Assume that every loss to Russia is somehow our gain, a zero sum game where every dead Russian makes our dicks harder
Step 5) Ignore all costs to Ukraine (well isn't that telling)

So by these five easy steps, I've arrived at the undeniable and authoritative conclusion that a mutual nuclear exchange between Russia and the US would be an enormously beneficial net positive. It would be pound for pound one of the most efficient ways to kill Russians at disproportionately low costs compared to conventional warfare, and even have the great upside of reducing global CO2 emissions for the next few centuries.
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Nov 19 2022 03:17pm
Netherlands protests 'despicable' Russian response to MH17 verdict

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/netherlands-summon-russian-ambassador-over-response-mh17-verdict-anp-news-2022-11-18/

Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was shot down over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014, as fighting raged between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian government forces, the precursor of this year's conflict.

In its ruling, the court said there was no doubt that the plane had been downed by a Russian missile system, and that Russia had "overall control" over the separatist forces in the region from mid-May 2014.

Foreign Minister Wopke Hoekstra said these remarks by Russia, which invaded Ukraine nine months ago, were "utterly despicable" and totally removed from reality.


Russia continues being a filthy terrorist state ran by a criminal madman, nothing new really.


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Nov 19 2022 03:18pm
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Same outfit that employs Adrian Zenz.

Basically the only thing that still works good in America anymore is it's propaganda industry.


Uyghurs will be going to China's moon base using the space elevator on Hainan island and Palasan will still be on PARD posting Falun Gong and OUN-B youtube videos.


Someone tried to quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Schriver

on another thread and I did a KYC and I said nope.
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Quote (Goomshill @ 20 Nov 2022 05:15)
https://cepa.org/article/its-costing-peanuts-for-the-us-to-defeat-russia/

So here's an actual, unironic, neoliberal think tank trying to do a cost benefit analysis of the Ukraine war.
Step 1) Accept the obviously fake ukrainian claims of Russian loses uncritically.
Step 2) Appraise GDP not GDP-PPP
Step 3) Ignore all energy and food and global market turmoil costs, other than to spin additional energy costs as a net positive because global warming
Step 4) Assume that every loss to Russia is somehow our gain, a zero sum game where every dead Russian makes our dicks harder
Step 5) Ignore all costs to Ukraine (well isn't that telling)

So by these five easy steps, I've arrived at the undeniable and authoritative conclusion that a mutual nuclear exchange between Russia and the US would be an enormously beneficial net positive. It would be pound for pound one of the most efficient ways to kill Russians at disproportionately low costs compared to conventional warfare, and even have the great upside of reducing global CO2 emissions for the next few centuries.


What about Americans lives?
I think if a nuclear exchange is going to happen.
Europe , Britain, and maybe even Japan will be the receiving end. That will a lot of lives lost.
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Nov 19 2022 03:21pm
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What about Americans lives?
I think if a nuclear exchange is going to happen.
Europe , Britain, and maybe even Japan will be the receiving end. That will a lot of lives lost.


He's a merkelite neoliberal. What you're talking about is to him a massive reduction of carbon footprints.
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Nov 19 2022 03:22pm
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He's a merkelite neoliberal. What you're talking about is to him a massive reduction of carbon footprints.


oh ok understood.
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In its ruling, the court said

Amazing the conclusions a 'court' comes to when all the evidence comes from CIA and SBU sources.

https://maxfromthewharf.com/mh17-1000-days/

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At the end of this article a reflection and prediction regarding the type of evidence that will be used in case of such litigation.

1) Tapped telephone conversations, videos and other materials that may have been forged by the SBU and of which the authenticity cannot be determined objectively.

2) Anonymous witnesses.

3) Evidence from classified US sources.
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Nov 19 2022 03:31pm
Russia might be secretly preparing for second wave of mobilization – ISW

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Russia is likely to face another wave of mobilization, which would make the overall quality of its troops even worse, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) has said.

"Russian officials are preparing for further covert mobilization efforts even as the fall conscription cycle is underway, likely further flooding the already overburdened Russian force generation apparatus in such a way that will be detrimental to the development of mobilized and conscripted servicemen," it said.

The ISW recalled that the Kremlin had stated that there is no need for Russian President Vladimir Putin to sign a decree formally ending the mobilization period.

As ISW previously assessed, Putin likely ordered the end of partial mobilization in order to free up bureaucratic and administrative capacity for the November 1 conscription class.

"However, it is evident that Russian authorities never fully halted mobilization efforts, which means that a limited number of mobilized recruits are still being forced through the training system at the same time as conscripts are going through their own training cycle," the analysts said.

This will likely lead to even lower quality training for both mobilized recruits and conscripts as they compete for insufficient training capacity.

"Another wave of mobilization in the coming months will only worsen the situation and likely degrade the overall quality of the Russian troops that will be funneled to the frontline in Ukraine," the analysts said.


Russia simply cannot replace its losses fast enough, 83,000 Russians estimated dead now.
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Nov 19 2022 03:34pm
US General Milley says Russia lost war in Ukraine strategically, operationally, tactically


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Head of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley believes that Russia has lost the war in Ukraine in strategic, operational and tactical terms, CNN said.

"Russians have failed every single time. They've lost strategically, they've lost operationally and, I repeat, they lost tactically. What they've tried to do, they failed at. The strategic reframing of their objectives, of their illegal invasion, have all failed, every single one of them," Milley said Wednesday at a press conference with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin after a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group.

According to Milley, Russia was unable to "overrun all of Ukraine" at the start of the war, as well as after its refocus on Donbas and the capture of part of Zaporizhia and Kherson regions.

"Across the entire frontline trace of some 900 or so kilometers, the Ukrainians have achieved success after success after success, and the Russians have failed every single time," he said.

Western media also cite Milley as saying that there is little chance that the Ukrainian armed forces will be able to push the Russians out of the occupied Ukrainian territories, including Crimea.

"The probability of a Ukrainian military victory, kicking the Russians out of all of Ukraine to include... Crimea, the probability of that happening anytime soon, is not high military," the U.S. general said, according to DW.
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