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Jun 24 2022 07:49pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 25 2022 07:38am)
honest question: do you expect birth rates to noticeably increase, and if so, what kind of childhood do you think the average forced birth kid will have? it's almost adorable how religiously-naive you are towards the predictable suffering and death this decision will cause in reality: children in loveless or destitute households, increased child poverty, crime, hunger, disproportionally affecting poor and minority folks (as intended). desperate mothers, a massive increase of unsafe illegal abortions, lifelong depression, even more prisoners, and ofc lasting deep division in society... truly a great day for religious zealots living sheltered lives everywhere...


The crime rate in 16 years is going to lead to a drill rap scene thats pure fire, i am on that foolio wave right now.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 25 2022 11:19am)
Who? Name them.

Contraception IS widely available. It can be obtained at any convenience store, grocery store, gas station, etc. Contraception is available pretty much anywhere water is sold, and on a per use basis, is far cheaper.

You're talking nonsense. Trying to say, "You have to pay for me to get laid, or I have a right to commit murder."

How about we do neither. You pay for your own contraception, which is ridiculously cheap, and if you attempt to commit murder, we throw you in a cage, adopt out your child, and treat you like the pariah you should be viewed as?

Everyone has a choice. The choice is: Use birth control, exercise abstinence, or get pregnant. Men have no choice in the matter. One night stand hits a home run, end up the slave to that woman for 18 to 25 years depending on the state, and if for any reason you go any extended period of time without employment, get thrown in a steel cage for nonpayment of child support. If the man is in a long term relationship with the woman, they agree to make the child, and 8 months in, she changes her mind? He has no choice. She murders his child, done deal. Men are on the hook for children they don't want regardless of "choice", and can have their children murdered without recourse. And let's not talk about women going and pulling condoms out of the trash and putting that shit inside themselves inside-out, trying to trap men into child support. I think the case of the celebrity who tossed hot sauce in that shit was wonderful, btw.

Love this, "Women aren't supposed to act like responsible human beings who suffer the consequences of their choices!" shit from the left. What wonderful arbiters of virtue. :rolleyes:


I have a daughter right now when my partner was on birth control, that shit is not even close to perfect.
Turns out if the pill reaches 40 degrees celcius it deactivates, so leaving it in your travel bag in the car is all it took for me to be a dad.
I am happy how it turned out but i also believe some people should not be parents and some babies should not be born and the ones being aborted are pretty likely to be that.
Either way once you guys succeed in banning abortion 2 generations will pass before whites are a minority and you live your conservative worst nightmare, so great decision :D

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Jun 24 2022 07:51pm
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The crime rate in 16 years is going to lead to a drill rap scene thats pure fire, i am on that foolio wave right now.


English please.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 25 2022 11:51am)
English please.


I was not talking to you and i have nothing to say to a nazi.

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Quote (fender @ Jun 24 2022 05:40pm)
you're doing it again. why is it so difficult for you to be honest (which clearly is the issue here, your reading comprehension isn't THAT terrible) about this? my position is not "let them die" but "let the woman decide IF she wants to have a baby - not the state".

you claimed i'm in favour of aborting fetuses that won't be born into optimal conditions, which is a ridiculous misrepresentation of what my actual stance is, which can simply be described as: IT'S NONE OF YOUR (OR THE GOVERNMENT'S) FUCKING BUSINESS.

explaining to you the real life ramifications, the predictable suffering that the legislation you support will have, in order to dispel your naive little delusion that you're saving lives rather than destroying them, in no way suggests i'm personally in favour of ending those pregnancies - especially since i repeatedly clarified that i don't like abortions, that i support better social safety programs for children and mothers (again, things that the majority of religious anti-choice zealots oppose), and most importantly, recognise it's simply NONE OF MY FUCKING BUSINESS.

how difficult is that really to understand? dis-incentivise abortions, educate your kids, make contraceptives available, tackle the rape issue, support young families, tell republicans that incest is not ok, stop imprisoning so many fathers, properly fund and set up your foster care and adoption system... but don't make women second class citizens, taking away their bodily autonomy, because of your dumb religious feelings. if you don't like abortions, don't have one - but don't tell others how to live their lives. that's theocracy stuff.

Of course it's the government's business. If it wasn't, why does your country and every other country regulate WHEN you can have an abortion? I don't think you have a winning argument there.
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I was not talking to you, your opinions are worthless and i have nothing to say to a nazi.


Lol I can't believe you are still butt hurt about me.
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Jun 24 2022 08:00pm
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Either way once you guys succeed in banning abortion 2 generations will pass before whites are a minority and you live your conservative worst nightmare, so great decision :D


Why did you feel the need to make this issue racial?
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Jun 24 2022 08:03pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 25 2022 12:00pm)
Why did you feel the need to make this issue racial?


Every post you make is racial, and 38.4% of abortions are african american woman and they make up 6% of the population.
Enjoy your "Win" nazi, you just helped make a whole new generation.
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Every post you make is racial, and 38.4% of abortions are african american woman and they make up 6% of the population.
Enjoy your "Win" nazi, you just helped make a whole new generation.


Are you tacitly agreeing that it's bad to have more African americans.
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Jun 24 2022 08:07pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Jun 25 2022 12:04pm)
Are you tacitly agreeing that it's bad to have more African americans.


No, it is from your perspective from my perspective the chicago and jacksonville drill rap scenes are going to be lit.
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Jun 24 2022 08:09pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 24 2022 10:03pm)
Every post you make is racial, and 38.4% of abortions are african american woman and they make up 6% of the population.
Enjoy your "Win" nazi, you just helped make a whole new generation.


Why aren't you happy that more black boys and girls are going to have a chance at life, to grow up to pursue their dreams and be happy, laugh, cry, live.

My thing with abortion proponents is like, do some introspection. You today are alive, you can enjoy the sun, a good meal, sex, fill in the blank. If life is that miserable for you, you can commit suicide, it's your choice. You don't though, because life is good and you have a inherent drive and want to live. But yet you want to deny that young life the same experience for convenience purposes? It's inhumane and absolutely selfish.
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