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#171
Apr 17 2017 05:17pm
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#172
Apr 17 2017 05:18pm
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Sitting off shore of a country that NO ONE is bothering (North Korea) who is pretty much stripping their country and arming for war IS a calmer approach.
China is the one that should be supervising their puppy dog...North Korea. But they seem to be "mostly" turning a blind eye.


They are basically trying to not make them their enemy, patient diplomacy, while being ready if needed.

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The question still remains, who is North Korea arming for war...against? South Korea is not bothering NK, neither is Japan, and the US just got there AFTER North Korea started arming for war.
Ole Kim Jong is yelling that he will blow up everyone if the US fires a shot. We aren't firing anything. WE aren't stripping our country and arming for war.


Their massive army is because it is needed to defend the impossible state. Without it, it would be easily overthrown. The Kims see this, and the need to become a nuclear power in modern times to be able to conserve their civilization.

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Let's put the blame where it belongs...please.

Right, these type of governments are highly dangerous in a nuclear world. Provoking them shows balls, at the cost citizens of surrounding countries.

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/e If Japan and South Korea were way far away from North Korea, we wouldn't NEED to be there at all.
Unfortunately, ICBM's don't take very long to get to a target, so we need to be close, to be able to respond in time.


I actually wondered what happened here. I've read a bit about it, seen a few vid, one suggested that SK and become used to the threats NK made over the years.
Nothing said SK was asking the US to drop in with a carrier.. Did they?

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Apr 17 2017 05:32pm
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They are basically trying to not make them their enemy, patient diplomacy, while being ready if needed.

They're both communist countries, they HAD trade agreements. IF China wanted NK, no one would care except SK.



Their massive army is because it is needed to defend the impossible state. Without it, it would be easily overthrown. The Kims see this, and the need to become a nuclear power in modern times to be able to conserve their civilization.

Bullshyt. The ONLY folks who MIGHT want NK would be China, and I can't even buy that.


Right, these type of governments are highly dangerous in a nuclear world. Provoking them shows balls, at the cost citizens of surrounding countries.

Bullshyt. The UN already forbade NK from developing it's nuclear armaments and deployment systems. The UN which NK is a part of. That's just Kim Jong bullshyt, and you know it.



I actually wondered what happened here. I've read a bit about it, seen a few vid, one suggested that SK and become used to the threats NK made over the years.
Nothing said SK was asking the US to drop in with a carrier.. Did they?


Maybe not what you watched. SK has been a US ally since the Korean war. The ONLY reason they are still a separate country is because we protect them






/e I'm sure the US would even protect the Netherlands if they asked. :)

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Apr 17 2017 05:38pm
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Maybe not what you watched. SK has been a US ally since the Korean war. The ONLY reason they are still a separate country is because we protect them






I'm sure the US would even protect the Netherlands if they asked. :)


Likewise,

But don't consider protect us, when we are not asking for it ^^


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Apr 17 2017 05:41pm
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Likewise,

But don't consider protect us, when we are not asking for it ^^




Don't worry.

Show me a link where someone is saying that South Korea or Japan is opposed to our being there.


/e Here's just the 1st one I came across that says they want us there...in so many words.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-north-korea-south-missile-test-nuclear-thaad-defence-system-a7686756.html

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Apr 17 2017 05:42pm
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Don't worry.

Show me a link where someone is saying that South Korea or Japan is opposed to our being there.


not opposing =/= asking.


/e and about the bold, remember Bush 2005 ;)
Diplomacy is still possible, yet we've missed the wave of talking about removing nuclear bombs in our world.. I hope it comes back though.
Would be a sad way to go.

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Apr 17 2017 05:44pm
Quote (Ghot @ 18 Apr 2017 00:32)
Maybe not what you watched. SK has been a US ally since the Korean war. The ONLY reason they are still a separate country is because we protect them
I'm sure the US would even protect the Netherlands if they asked. :)


Who brainwashed your brain ?

We all know it's over, nobody want the "protection" of usa anymore, nobody want trump, nobody want the american model failure.
Your country will be punished hard soon or later by our great leader, Beloved and Respected General, Mastermind of the Revolution, Eternal General Secretary of the Party...

Etc etc...
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#178
Apr 17 2017 05:46pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 17 2017 06:44pm)

We all know it's over, nobody want the "protection" of usa anymore, nobody want trump, nobody want the american model failure.


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#179
Apr 17 2017 05:49pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Apr 17 2017 06:42pm)
not opposing =/= asking.


/e and about the bold, remember Bush 2005 ;)
Diplomacy is still possible, yet we've missed the wave of talking about removing nuclear bombs in our world.. I hope it comes back though.
Would be a sad way to go.



We all want that. No one sane, wants nuclear war. The US won't attack North Korea until there is no other option...aka...until the death toll is so high, we have to go in.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 17 2017 06:44pm)
Who brainwashed your brain ?

We all know it's over, nobody want the "protection" of usa anymore, nobody want trump, nobody want the american model failure.
Your country will be punished hard soon or later by our great leader, Beloved and Respected General, Mastermind of the Revolution, Eternal General Secretary of the Party...

Etc etc...


Don't you worry. No one will protect France. Not anymore. We did it once and this is the thanks we get.

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#180
Apr 17 2017 05:51pm
Quote (IceMage @ 18 Apr 2017 00:46)
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