Tip out for dead homies.

That guy died?

Well, he stopped posting in PaRD, same thing.

Anyway, it's impossible to either prove or disprove the existence of God. Taking in subjective experiences and using them to draw conclusions regarding objective truths is the only thing that any of us can do. The very inputs that we use to know anything other than the inside of our own minds are unreliable, let alone the weakness of relying upon conclusions that we draw within our own conscious mind. Therefore, taking in an experience that one feels 'proves' the existence of a deity and using that to believe that said deity objectively exists is no less logical than several other assumptions that any given person carries around on any given day.

Also, given the subjectivity of said experience, there's not going to be any way that anyone changes their mind over a subjective experience like that through flat-out argumentation. I suppose the occasional kid raised in the church who just never questioned it may happen by and be convincible, but generally speaking, people who believe in God have already wrestled harder and longer with these questions than anyone who thinks they have a good argument against the existence of God has.

tl;dr - you're all wrong and the above is the only correct answer regarding the existence of God, so I'm not giving you a tl;dr version, pwnt

This post was edited by AiNedeSpelCzech on Mar 18 2016 11:30pm

Huh, who knew Jesus lived at the same time as people who were still alive in 80AD or later.

Oh come on, we know that Q predates the gospels by quite a bit and that they're based largely on stories that had been handed down.

People aren't seriously still getting rooked by the "Jesus wasn't real" thing, are they? I mean, he's about as real as Alexander the Great, give or take a line or two.

I'm open to Jesus being a euhemorized being. It would fit with other observed modern timelines, and has roots in Jewish mythology of the time.

What does my post have to do with thinking Jesus wasn't real? I think Jesus was almost certainly real.

In fact, I've literally used that same Alexander the Great comparison in this forum.

Frodo claimed that the Gospel of Luke was written by an eyewitness (presumably Luke in his opinion), or at least included eyewitness testimony from a first-hand source. But the historical consensus is that it was written at the earliest around 80-100AD and was still being heavily revised until the 2nd century. It was not written by an eyewitness is all I was saying.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Mar 19 2016 01:05am

God is real, and there is only 1 way to get to heaven when you die... by accepting Jesus as your savior, he died for your sins and resurrected 3 days later...

in the bible it is stated that the pathway to Hell is Wide (meaning you can go to hell for many things) and there is only one way to get to heaven...


answer solved thank you god bless

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Then who is Matthew, Mark and John?



Around about 20 years after. 20 years isn't all that long ago to interview many eyewitnesses.



Luke, a doctor, has carefully investigated the eyewitness reports and written up an account of Jesus. The thing is, there are so many people who have done all of he investigation for us.

All they have done is written down. All we need to do is read up on their report.