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Old news. We already knew this. I'm not saying you claimed it was new...but Reuters seems to have implied that?


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In an affidavit attached to the July 2017 application, an FBI agent said he had reviewed tax returns for a company controlled by Manafort and his wife that showed a $10 million loan from a Russian lender identified as Oleg Deripaska.

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Old news. We already knew this. I'm not saying you claimed it was new...but Reuters seems to have implied that?




Why would your beloved Reuters put it out today if it wasn't news? Are they fake news as well?

Learn to read son.

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Why would your beloved Reuters put it out today if it wasn't news? Are they fake news as well?

Learn to read son.




Unsealed to who? The FBI included the fact of the $10 mill load in a July 2017 application.

/e The public may have just learned about it, but the FBI has known for a year.

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the russians didnt win the election for trump the third party candidates did...the numbers don't lie
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Jun 27 2018 05:13pm
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Unsealed to who? The FBI included the fact of the $10 mill load in a July 2017 application.

/e The public may have just learned about it, but the FBI has known for a year.


The application was sealed, meaning the information contained in it was not released to the public. When they say it was just unsealed, it means the information was released to the public.

So, before it was unsealed, we didn't know this Russian oligarch gave Manafort a 10 million dollar loan.

Are you following now?
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The application was sealed, meaning the information contained in it was not released to the public. When they say it was just unsealed, it means the information was released to the public.

So, before it was unsealed, we didn't know this Russian oligarch gave Manafort a 10 million dollar loan.

Are you following now?




My point is... the FBI knew. In defending their right to do an insta-search of Manafort's home they stated they other information, not yet revealed.
We pretty much had to assume that, because the searchers didn't go to jail.

$10 mill is petty cash when borrowed by "a company controlled by Manafort and his wife".

But if you want to make a big thing about it... go for it.


Oh yeah, they Clinton Foundation got $145 mill from the Russians. :/
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Jun 27 2018 05:31pm
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My point is... the FBI knew. In defending their right to do an insta-search of Manafort's home they stated they other information, not yet revealed.
We pretty much had to assume that, because the searchers didn't go to jail.

$10 mill is petty cash when borrowed by "a company controlled by Manafort and his wife".

But if you want to make a big thing about it... go for it.


Oh yeah, they Clinton Foundation got $145 mill from the Russians. :/


Uhhh... yes, when documents shown to a judge are sealed, we know that the investigators and prosecutors knew about those documents, because they were the ones who found them.

Your point was that it wasn't news because the FBI knew about it. That's absurd, because the FBI conceals material found during investigations all the time, and then later might release that material to the public. When they release it, outlets like Reuters cover it, and that's called "news".

How old are you again? You need someone 35 years younger to explain this to you?

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Uhhh... yes, when documents shown to a judge are sealed, we know that the investigators and prosecutors knew about those documents, because they were the ones who found them.

Your point was that it wasn't news because the FBI knew about it. That's absurd, because the FBI conceals material found during investigations all the time, and then later might release that material to the public. When they release it, outlets like Reuters cover it, and that's called "news".

How old are you again? You need someone 35 years younger to explain this to you?




No, my point was what I said...

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My point is... the FBI knew. In defending their right to do an insta-search of Manafort's home they stated they other information, not yet revealed.


They stated this publicly. We didn't know that it was a $10 mill loan, but we knew there was more.



If you need to fap to this $10 mill nothingburger, go for it. Far be it for me to get in the way of someone's.. nightly pleasures. :)
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No, your point was this:

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Old news. We already knew this. I'm not saying you claimed it was new...but Reuters seems to have implied that?


We. Not the FBI. We. Which, in the context of a PaRD thread, would imply that "we" means the readers of PaRD.
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