Yeah, I'm making fun of you

thank your lucky stars china was that dumb and boycott them too.

...and poorly too.

Happens when you stick your nose into subject matter you know dick about

New package from Sweden: About 300 million dollars worth military equipment and about 75 million humanitarian aid for the winter.

Do you often find that the people who make fun of you value your opinion on how well they are doing?

We get them to stop by compromise. We compromise so it never gets to the point to even have the initial nuke dropped, so that way humanity wins. When the wests official stance that all of Ukraine including Crimea needs to be returned for peace talks to happen, it's a non-starter and just shows how little we care about getting peace. We want to give Russia the Germany WW1 treatment and are acting all surprised why it's not sticking.



Could you?

This same logic was used to justify Iraq, Afghanistan and dozens of other of interventions. Replaces nuke with WMD, Assad chemical weapons, fill in the blank. What has forceful responses begotten us in the last 30 years? I guess in 2022 some libertarian purist doctrines like being anti-war get thrown out the window because this time its different right?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 16 2022 01:27pm

So your response to a nuclear first strike is to "compromise", i.e. the aggressor is rewarded for an offensive use of nuclear weapons by an improved negotiating position, while the victim of his aggression is being forced into more concessions?

By the way, I agree with your assessment on Crimea; Russia will not return it. I do, however, believe that the West and even Ukraine know this. Letting Russia keep Crimea is the obvious concession we can make in an eventual peace treaty that allows them to save face. This bargaining will of course only work if we don't show our hands prematurely. It's obvious that we/Ukraine cannot signal readiness to compromise on this point just yet.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 16 2022 01:37pm

Compromise before its gets to that point. I don't really care about the optics of who wins tbh. If Donetsk and Luhansk, regions who have always been pro-east end up with a Russian flag or Ukrainian flag over them it impacts me naught whatsoever and it doesn't impact 99% of all humanity not you in Germany and honestly barely anyone in western Ukraine.

But to continue a war which at this point is involving hundreds of thousands with massive amounts of arms proliferation, with talks of potential nukes, etc... Like wtf? We're losing track of what's important. No one in the US or EU will be losing sleep if one of those regions is Russia's, most Russians wont be losing sleep if they remain Ukraine, so why tf are we spiraling into a bigger and bigger war with calls to continue to do so?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 16 2022 01:47pm