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Nov 16 2022 10:38am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 16 2022 06:33pm)
Despite heinous Russian attack on our presidential motorcade Poles stand strong with Ukraine!



We always stand with Ukraine, it never will change. Only idiot believe tiny fraction of bandera lover in Ukraine make Ukraine bad peoples. They are fight for survival of freedom and democracy in Eastern Europe and even world as whole.

Sick in za head people here never met Ukrainian in life and talk retarded shit.
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Nov 16 2022 10:41am
Keep waving the blue and yellow flag as their missiles land in a nato country killing people. :o

Wait to see all the people who back pedal on their support for Ukraine.
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Nov 16 2022 10:41am
Quote (Zooj @ Nov 16 2022 05:26pm)
just stop make prediction
you know nothing and sick in za head
Ukraine will win, I who not like Ukraine much donate 10,000 zloty today to Ukraine, support grow by second


Ukraine is never going to win this

It's a black hole btw, only idiots would throw money at it
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Nov 16 2022 10:42am
Quote (Zooj @ Nov 16 2022 12:38pm)
We always stand with Ukraine, it never will change. Only idiot believe tiny fraction of bandera lover in Ukraine make Ukraine bad peoples. They are fight for survival of freedom and democracy in Eastern Europe and even world as whole.

Sick in za head people here never met Ukrainian in life and talk retarded shit.


Ukraine are helms deep for the world! Stop the orc!
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Nov 16 2022 10:43am
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Quote (Djunior @ Nov 16 2022 06:41pm)
Ukraine is never going to win this

It's a black hole btw, only idiots would throw money at it



say idiot who say russia army modern
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Nov 16 2022 10:44am
Ukraine was given millions, billions of dollars to promote economic growth and help build the country.
Ukraine spent the money on social programs and other useless shit (when building a country from the ground up)
Ukraine could not pay back their debt to the banks, making it open season for Russia.

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Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden created financial interests in Ukraine(, very likely receiving some of that money the banks loaned Ukraine.)
This all got started around 2014 under the Obama Administration, When Joe Biden was Vice President.

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But don't worry Democrats have a cover story,.. Russia, Russia, Russia
Now where have we heard that before..

More Mass Hypnosis utilizing Russia as the Enemy.
Despite Russia being beaten back by some Ukrainians.
The later Russians Retreating and forcing people to join the military.

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But YOU should keep drinking the koolaid, The Red Dye Is 'Good' For YOU.


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Nov 16 2022 12:14pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 16 Nov 2022 15:08)
If a country used a nuke in a war, the rational and logical next step is to de-escalate not send in the troops to effectively declare war on that country. You logic is completely inverse. If they used a nuke in Ukraine, what makes you think they wouldn't use a nuke again, against the countries killing their troops and going in with boots on the ground? I mean at that point, hypothetically the already used one, you'd willing to bet they wouldn't use another one?


1. There is a huge difference, in terms of escalation, between using tactical nukes on a third country, and using strategic nukes against NATO cities.
2. Your logic implies that the use of nukes as an offensive weapon is an "I-win-card" for any nuclear power fighting against a non-nuclear country. That's obviously a precedent the rest of the world cannot accept.
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Nov 16 2022 12:17pm
Quote (Djunior @ 16 Nov 2022 15:12)
You know what is disgusting? => Ukraine targeting a Polish village and Zelensky immediately calling for WW3


Ukraine did not "target" a Polish village, this was a stray missile, an accident. For the record: even if it had been a stray Russian missile like most people thought initially, that wouldn't be grounds for calling for WW3.
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Nov 16 2022 12:24pm
Quote (ferdia @ 16 Nov 2022 15:42)
It boggles the mind how the narrative is "Russia has weaponised food and energy" when it was the western block (us) that imposed sanctions in the first place. Russia is ever tit for tat yet the spin is they started all this.


You might have a point on energy, but what exactly has the West done to justify Russia blocking Ukrainian grain exports which are needed to feed poor countries in Africa and the Middle East?

e: sry for the triple post :blush:

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Nov 16 2022 12:26pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 15 2022 06:46pm)
I would have expected the "Ukrainian army would only get STRONGER if nuked" take from Palasan but apparently whatever he has is contagious.


No one fucking said that. Learn to fucking read.

Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 15 2022 06:49pm)
Nukes, any, strategic or not, are gigantic force-multipliers that nobody will stand against. There is no army in the world that would face nukes in any shape or form (besides having nukes of their own and using them). At most there will be some attempts to shoot down one or two using AD but vast majorty will hit hard.

Russian tactical nuclear weapons have explosive yields of 10 to 100 kilotons of dynamite. Hiroshima was 15.

Russia has like 1900 of these. You telling me some fucking Ukrainian conscripts would fight hundreds and potentially THOUSANDS of Hiroshima's?

yall trolls or literally fucking crazy, waste of time discussing politics with asylum residents

10 properly placed tactical nuclear weapons of 10kt, and 99% of ukranian army would be fucking dead. Strategic nuclear weapons have 100-500++ yeild


First, the discussion is generally involving a single weapon being used. Using large numbers of them can certainly decimate opposition, but at what cost? The land you want to steal is not uninhabitable.

No one "fights a nuclear weapon." What a fucking moronic take. The fighting would be done in the blast zone. And it's equally deadly for Ukraine and Russia alike to enter the area. But artillery positioned outside the blast area can easily reach anywhere inside it. So go ahead and climb on a bunch of trucks and give it the old college try, orcs!
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