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What you’re talking about again is not based on how real existential wars are fought. You cannot keep things tidy and set up some rules of what’s okay and what’s not and create a sandbox of how we’re going to play this out.
... which is why NATO has tried to stay clear of this war, at least when it comes to direct involvement. But if Russia uses tactical nukes as an offensive weapon, that's a real game changer.
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If we went into Ukraine and started slaughtering Russians they wouldn’t just say okay we will only play by these rules in this sandbox. Let’s say they don’t use nukes. If I was a Russian decision maker I would cripple western satellites both military and civilian and cause widespread damage to NATO countries. I would bomb key ports like Rotterdam and at that point those types of responses would be appropriate if those countries are literally waging war on me. Idk why you think they would just sheepishly accept losing the war and their people when there’s still ample ways to retaliate.
Bombing Rotterdam would trigger article V and directly lead to war against NATO. Attacks on satellites are a bit of a grey zone in this regard.
But yes, I do think that it would make a difference if NATO is waging war against Russia's occupying forces in a foreign country like Ukraine, or if they were waging war against Russia on Russian territory.