Nukes, any, strategic or not, are gigantic force-multipliers that nobody will stand against. There is no army in the world that would face nukes in any shape or form (besides having nukes of their own and using them). At most there will be some attempts to shoot down one or two using AD but vast majorty will hit hard.

Russian tactical nuclear weapons have explosive yields of 10 to 100 kilotons of dynamite. Hiroshima was 15.

Russia has like 1900 of these. You telling me some fucking Ukrainian conscripts would fight hundreds and potentially THOUSANDS of Hiroshima's?

yall trolls or literally fucking crazy, waste of time discussing politics with asylum residents

10 properly placed tactical nuclear weapons of 10kt, and 99% of ukranian army would be fucking dead. Strategic nuclear weapons have 100-500++ yeild

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 15 2022 07:05pm

That's obviously bullshit, but on the flip side, it's asinine to believe that Russia using a nuclear first strike (no matter if tactical or strategic) would strengthen their position. All the countries which have supported them on the global stage, either directly (China) or indirectly by taking a neutral stance and abstaining from UN votes (e.g. India, Israel), would be really hard pressed to distance themselves from Russia.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 15 2022 07:00pm

Nobody saying that russia would "gain" from using tactical nukes, or would use them.

These monkies are saying ukranian army would win vs 10-50KT nukes.

The inny winny little baby nukes of <1-2kt is shit as far we know only the US has in arsenal. And even they are extremely deadly.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 15 2022 07:01pm

YOU are the one that's arguing that a couple of well-placed tactical nukes would break Ukraine's will to fight, or kill 99% of their army. You are the one arguing that this is a viable option for Russia, an ace up their sleeve that would improve their chances of winning this war.

For reference, russian nuclear weapons aren't well known, but the "tinniest" Iskandar launched nuclear weapon they have is 5KT (according to Russians). Which i would assume is in very small quantity because most Russian nukes are on the larger side. This "tiny nuke" is still 1/3 of hiroshima.



Go read the topic fucktard. The monkey santara started this by saying, which you and every other low-tier monkey defends

You are dumb as fuckkkkk

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 15 2022 07:10pm

It will be interesting in a few hours....Poland are trying to control things at the moment. A lot of pressure for the head of a country.

I can't imagine a situation where Russia would be desperate enough to use one at this point. If Russia was at that level of desperation why wouldn't they just flatten every inch of Ukraine with non nuclear weapons first?

People have been led to believe that what we've seen is Russia waging total war, probably so they can get behind the idea that Ukraine can "win" instead of just settling more or less favorably when this ends. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

Idk how this nuke discussion started but its kind of nonsensical lol.

All we have to do is look at history how a country responded when it got nuked. It literally took days for complete surrender. If imperial honor heavy seppuku culture Japan literally said we're done a few days later, i would expect no country today to somehow be defiant. It literally would make no sense. At that point any sensible leader would look to end war right away because that's not war, that's just annihilation. There was no discussion of, okay if we move our troops 100km from this place to this place then xyz and we can continue. That's not a realistic worldview given such a reality.

But like I said, nonsensical scenario, Russia wouldn't use nukes in current scenario, the war would have to seriously escalate with nato deployment, with Nato bombing Russia and so on for that to be even on the table.

Japan at the end of WW2 had no more allies and was hopelessly outmatched in terms of conventional forces. They had no counter whatsoever against the American nukes. Their total defeat was only a matter of time, with or without nukes. Ukraine, on the other hand, has allies which are far more powerful than Russia and would presumably intervene if Russia used a nuclear first strike.

Japan also refused to give up. Their cultural code forbid defeat. It took 2 nukes for japan to step back and review the direction of their country.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 15 2022 07:42pm