Quote (ownyaah @ 15 Nov 2022 16:20)
This is the problem with shit takes like this, sure the gas is 100%. But how much did they pay for it, compared to last years? Is that cost sustainable? What will be the repercussions to production? How many facilities will have to shutdown, or be moved elsewhere (china/US)? What will happen with future productional investment in eu/germany? Stupid retarded takes, based on a number "100% filled" that doesn't mean shit. A fuckton of raw materials came in from russia, where will they get those now? How much more will they pay for it?
What damage will this do to german production competitiveness? . I pointed this out a long time ago, heating homes isn't a big deal, the problem is that industry will be hit hard and lose competitive edge -> economy takes hit.
I've been saying for months that Russia's tampering with the gas tap will spur a reorganization of global energy markets which will take some time. Prices predictably soared in the short term because of the chaos and uncertainty, and because a proper gas shortage in Europa during the winter seemed like a realistic possibility. Since then, prices have predictably come down again, but are still higher than before the outbreak of the war. Simply put, we don't know yet where prices will settle in the long term, i.e. how much higher the costs are which have to be sustained in a post-war future. Or how well Europe's industry will cope with the higher prices.
And of course Russia won't be able to sustain the current losses in their economy indefinitely either. I still stand by my prediction that gas trade with Europe will be resumed at a lower volume once the war in Ukraine ends. It's just far too beneficial for both sides.
Here's a chart for TTF futures, which are generally considered to be a benchmark for European gas prices:

It currently stands at $113, compared with $75 before the outbreak of the war. That's still very high, but much lower than during late summer. A lot will depend on where it ultimately settles, i.e. if the current downward trend continues or if the line flattens out.