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Nov 14 2022 07:20pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 14 2022 08:32pm)
Dude, this kind of behavior puts Zelensky in the bottom decile of corruption by the standards of Ukrainian elites. The big question mark surrounding Zelensky is not personal corruption, but rather his relationship with the notoriously shady oligarch Ihor Kolomoyskyi. Zelensky most definitely isn't his "puppet" and just carrying out Kolomoyskyi's orders like some critics insinuate, but I would prefer a political leader without any ties to figures like that guy. Let's just say that in a post-war Ukraine, I would expect Kolomoyskyi to have "good business fortune".


I don't disagree with any of that, that's basically what I was getting at with my post, the links to Kolomoyskyi seem super sketchy. I wouldn't care if Zelensky just made some extra cash, most western politicians leave office millions of dollars richer so that wouldn't be anything unique to Ukraine, and he actually has a successful career to warrant having money anyway.

The whole conflict to me seems like it was probably influenced by the US, I think the revolution that ousted the more pro Russian government was supported by them to make adding Ukraine to NATO less complicated.
I don't think they believed Russia would or could react to it at the time, and their eventual goal was to ring Russia in missile defenses to neutralize them as a nuclear threat. I think Zelensky was more a tool than a puppet in all of it, I don't doubt he is actually a decent guy who believes in what he ran on, but he had no political experience so it's very likely he could be influenced by whoever he is being advised by.




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Nov 14 2022 07:34pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 15 2022 02:43am)
I think what he is trying to say is: (incomparable)

US: killed directly/indirectly 2-3++million civilians last 20 years or so, and plundered countries
Russia: 6000-10000 civilians in ukraine so far

Lastly, moralistic point of view does not belong in politics. I would recommend you guys partake in what is known as homosexual activity, that is more relevant than spewing your bullshit feelings on a political-topic. In your act of "love making" you can discuss your feelings
Political discussions irl+online and in many other forms is plagued by the same group of mega pussies (or pieces of shit that mask moralism to further a bias when it fits narrative)


Mauripol 25,000 - 35,000+ dead civilians alone, and thats only numbers where there are substantial evidence... Numbers could be as high as 70-80k in Mauripol alone
Due to fog of war many make the mistake of not understanding the scale of destruction/fighting that have taken place.

We are talking about a city of 500k people officially but the records in Ukraine are notourisly bad, that have been thrown into the meatgrinder within hours of the invasion

This post was edited by Palasan on Nov 14 2022 07:38pm
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Nov 14 2022 07:41pm
Quote (Palasan @ 15 Nov 2022 02:34)
Mauripol 25,000 - 35,000+ dead civilians alone, and thats only numbers where there are substantial evidence... Numbers could be as high as 70-80k in Mauripol alone
Due to fog of war many make the mistake of not understanding the scale of destruction/fighting that have taken place.


it's irrelevant in the first place. if it's "just" 10k or 100k+. anyone cheering for the side starting this whole war, murdering innocent people and civilians - like trailer trash and all the other pootin apologists in this thread - and even hoping for a further escalation through chinese involvement, has a serious problem and needs to see a doctor. no lazy whataboutism regarding america's countless war crimes will change that.
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Nov 14 2022 07:46pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 14 2022 05:41pm)
it's irrelevant in the first place. if it's "just" 10k or 100k+. anyone cheering for the side starting this whole war, murdering innocent people and civilians - like trailer trash and all the other pootin apologists in this thread - and even hoping for a further escalation through chinese involvement, has a serious problem and needs to see a doctor. no lazy whataboutism regarding america's countless war crimes will change that.


You have no idea why you support Ukraine. A year ago, you didn't know Ukraine was a country. Next year, they'll upload new programming into your neural matrix and you'll be pissing and moaning about that instead, completely memory holing Ukraine even if it's still happening lol
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Nov 14 2022 07:59pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 15 2022 03:41am)
it's irrelevant in the first place. if it's "just" 10k or 100k+. anyone cheering for the side starting this whole war, murdering innocent people and civilians - like trailer trash and all the other pootin apologists in this thread - and even hoping for a further escalation through chinese involvement, has a serious problem and needs to see a doctor. no lazy whataboutism regarding america's countless war crimes will change that.


Don't think he cheers for Russia, just roleplaying geo-political "intellectual" viewing the conflict through rose tinted glasses unable to understand that there is no valid reasoning for Russia and its barbarism. The verticality of Russian power structure with all the levers of power centred around a single man truly boggles the mind, it defies logical explanation and sanity itself.

Better than Hamsterbaby who is some Weeaboo who launches nukes every 3 minutes over anything that might anger Russia. But then again, given his China roots, its in his DNA to submit and silently collect rice in the field.

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Nov 14 2022 08:06pm
Quote (Palasan @ Nov 14 2022 09:59pm)
Don't think he cheers for Russia, just roleplaying geo-political "intellectual" viewing the conflict through rose tinted glasses unable to understand that there is no valid reasoning for Russia and its barbarism. The verticality of Russian power structure with all the levers of power centred around a single man truly boggles the mind, it defies logical explanation and sanity itself.

Better than Hamsterbaby who is some Weeaboo who launches nukes every 3 minutes over anything that might anger Russia. But then again, given his China roots, its in his DNA to submit and silently collect rice in the field.


Lmao palasan got that old school racism, none of this new fangled micro aggression crap, he goes for the jugular

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Nov 14 2022 08:34pm
Quote (Palasan @ 15 Nov 2022 02:59)
Don't think he cheers for Russia, just roleplaying geo-political "intellectual" viewing the conflict through rose tinted glasses unable to understand that there is no valid reasoning for Russia and its barbarism. The verticality of Russian power structure with all the levers of power centred around a single man truly boggles the mind, it defies logical explanation and sanity itself.

Better than Hamsterbaby who is some Weeaboo who launches nukes every 3 minutes over anything that might anger Russia. But then again, given his China roots, its in his DNA to submit and silently collect rice in the field.


What in the actual fuck...
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Nov 14 2022 08:36pm
It was funny honestly lol

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Now less funny:

Zelensky: Russia has deported/kidnapped 11,000 Ukrainian children


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Nov 14 2022 08:42pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 15 2022 04:36am)
It was funny honestly lol

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Zelensky: Russia has deported/kidnapped 11,000 Ukrainian children


Has he count all himself?
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Nov 14 2022 08:45pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 15 2022 02:43am)
I think what he is trying to say is: (incomparable)

US: killed directly/indirectly 2-3++million civilians last 20 years or so, and plundered countries
Russia: 6000-10000 civilians in ukraine so far

Lastly, moralistic point of view does not belong in politics. I would recommend you guys partake in what is known as homosexual activity, that is more relevant than spewing your bullshit feelings on a political-topic. In your act of "love making" you can discuss your feelings
Political discussions irl+online and in many other forms is plagued by the same group of mega pussies (or pieces of shit that mask moralism to further a bias when it fits narrative)


why you recommend other to do gay sex? You gay?
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