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Nov 14 2022 02:30pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 14 2022 03:24pm)
Ungrateful way to look at almost a century of global stability. I take it you'd be first to learn Chinese and work 20 shifts for $1 a day?

No, I didn't think so.


Who need a job other than slaves lol.
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Nov 14 2022 02:31pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 14 2022 04:26pm)
Prove it


https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/timeline-of-20th-and-21st-century-wars

???
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Nov 14 2022 02:36pm
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I dunno man I would just buy a house where I live and not have sketchy offshore holdings.

Oh sorry, he doesnt have them anymore, he switched them to his friend when he got elected but still makes money off of them.


Even if that's true, thats absolutely nothing compared to most of old-school Ukrainian politicians he was competing against with a personal fleet of yachts, wow 1 million pounds apartment in London, Ochoa from Arsenal could afford a 2.2 million house there and all dude did there was sit on the bench as a second choice goalkeeper.
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Nov 14 2022 02:36pm
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Unconvincing. Which global conflict has there been since 1945? I'll wait.




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Quote (Palasan @ Nov 14 2022 04:36pm)
Even if that's true, thats absolutely nothing compared to most of old-school Ukrainian politicians he was competing against with a personal fleet of yachts, wow 1 million pounds apartment in London, Ochoa from Arsenal could afford a 2.2 million house there and all dude did there was sit on the bench as a second choice goalkeeper.


Ok sorry, completely normal and not worth mentioning my bad.
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Nov 14 2022 02:45pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 14 2022 03:37pm)
Ok sorry, completely normal and not worth mentioning my bad.


Nothing abnormal for a guy in tv show business both in Russia and Ukraine since the 1990s, he probably officially made 1-2m dollars during the busy half of the year alone and there are under the table bonuses and such as well. So he moved his money to the west by using offshore services and maybe cheated the tax laws in one way or another, nothing compared to what his opponents did blatantly stealing 100s of millions.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 14 2022 03:36pm)
Unconvincing. Which global conflict has there been since 1945? I'll wait.


He's right tho. Stop wanting to win a debate over the internet Thor and act normal for once.
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Nov 14 2022 02:48pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 14 2022 04:36pm)
Unconvincing. Which global conflict has there been since 1945? I'll wait.


Mostly just been rich countries dropping bombs on poor people since then, or destroying their economies/inciting revolutions to ensure the rich countries continued global dominance. I guess that's cool though, depending where you live, thus me thinking "global" was a reach.
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Nov 14 2022 03:04pm
Reports are coming in that Oleshky has been liberated by the Ukrainians, first town on the left bank of Dnipro river, one of the few bigger towns in entire Kherson region


So much for no way for Ukraine to cross Dnipro if true.
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Nov 14 2022 03:06pm
Quote (Palasan @ Nov 14 2022 04:45pm)
Nothing abnormal for a guy in tv show business both in Russia and Ukraine since the 1990s, he probably officially made 1-2m dollars during the busy half of the year alone and there are under the table bonuses and such as well. So he moved his money to the west by using offshore services and maybe cheated the tax laws in one way or another, nothing compared to what his opponents did blatantly stealing 100s of millions.


"The documents show that Zelensky and his partners in a television production company, Kvartal 95, set up a network of offshore firms dating back to at least 2012, the year the company began making regular content for TV stations owned by Ihor Kolomoisky, an oligarch dogged by allegations of multi-billion-dollar fraud. The offshores were also used by Zelensky associates to purchase and own three prime properties in the center of London.

The documents also show that just before he was elected, he gifted his stake in a key offshore company, the British Virgin Islands-registered Maltex Multicapital Corp., to his business partner — soon to be his top presidential aide. And in spite of giving up his shares, the documents show that an arrangement was soon made that would allow the offshore to keep paying dividends to a company that now belongs to his wife."

Maybe this sort of stuff is regular business in Ukraine but it looks sketchy to me.

Why did he start the offshore firms the year he started working for a notorious oligarch? Why switch the ownership of them before he was elected?

I dont think anyone would be shocked he was worth millions as a celebrity, but the way he moved his money and the connections to the oligarch make it seem suspicious.
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