Meanwhile in Russia: a rally, demanding for Moscow to strike Washington. They cite Putin's words: "We will go to heaven as martyrs and they will simply croak."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1591472331368861697

"Psychiatric hospital on a walk"

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btw: start watch at 1:08

Lesson here: never talk shit you can't back up.

i have the reaction at 0:14, start to watch at 0:00



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 12 2022 02:49pm

Ukraine Signals It Will Stay on the Offensive, Despite Talk of a Lull

Many analysts and diplomats have suggested there could be a pause in major combat, and even peace talks, over the winter, but after pushing the Russians out of Kherson, Ukraine has no desire to stop.

As jubilant Ukrainian troops hoist their national flag over Kherson after a comprehensive Russian retreat, they give no sign of stopping their offensives for the winter, or allowing the war to settle into a stalemate.

In the east, Ukrainian forces continue to grind forward and have repelled repeated Russian efforts to seize towns like Bakhmut and Pavlivka, reportedly killing hundreds of Russian soldiers. In the south, they are striking deep behind Russian lines, hitting Moscow’s troops before they can settle and build defenses on the eastern bank of the Dnipro River, across from Kherson.

And there are growing hints from troops on the ground, and volunteers close to them, that the Ukrainians are preparing for a new land offensive between those two fronts, south through the Zaporizhzhia region toward Melitopol, challenging Russia’s hold on the entire southern area that it seized in the invasion that began in February.

“The logic of war is not to pause and somehow continue to move forward,” said Senior Lt. Andriy Mikheichenko, a commander of an anti-tank unit defending the embattled town of Bakhmut, in the eastern Donbas region. “I think there will be counterattacks in other directions, so that the enemy does not have time to transfer reserves and block strikes.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/12/world/europe/ukraine-war-strategy-russia.html

Ukraine really needs to push forward and deal another devastating defeat to the Russians to annihilate them completely

they can do that, and i'm a bit worried of the russians reaction (chemicals weapons or shits like that, destroying barrages etc)

Very unlikely, unless Ukraine starts Crimea campaign which they won't, it simply does not have the necessary manpower to take back Crimea until whole mainland Ukraine is liberated. And even then any push towards Crimea will lead to Russia escalating on the Northern/Eastern borders right away.

It also has to be stated that ethnically Russian Crimeans which compose most of Crimean population are not looking forward to their cities becoming the meatgrinder venues, Ukrainians would find little local support inside the cities located on the peninsula as modern humans always lean toward stability, even if its inside a regime ran by a madman (Not that they knew any better when Crimea was ran by organized criminals with very close links to Russia, prior to 2014).

Putins dilemma remains on how to sell his failures to bloodthirsty public back home, so far scapegoats in the form of generals have been adequate fodder. One thing for sure - Russia has no answer to what it will be after Putin is gone. This war is built solely on his delusions about grandeur reunifications, Ukraine falling in mere days and Russia moving forward by exerting preassure on the NATO bloc using Ukrainians as pawns in the process. Elites back home are just waiting for him to finally die, so they can move forward first by taming the pro-war factions which will crumble into dust without Putin rather fast then to start draining the swamp old man created. They are sick and tired of the "plane" they are on constantly taking vertical plunges up and down with Putin the pilot who decided to showcase his fighter jet ballet skills on a commercial liner.

Imagine yourself getting on a flight, it takes off everything looking normal, then suddenly the plane starts doing butterflies and kamikaze dives with Putins voice coming over the intercom now and then "Ladies and gentlemen this is greatness, everything going according to the plan, also we changed your flight destination to complete opposite location of the one you initially wanted to go to."

This post was edited by Palasan on Nov 12 2022 03:59pm

I was only talking about kherson region, which is the one with most ukrainians % along with Zaporizhzhia (if i remember well the maps), then later pushing at east i guess.
But maybe Ukrainians could give priority to south east, because natural ressources?

Anyway if they get back the south (not including crimea) "too fast", chances that Russia does worse war crimes are real IMHO.
Btw they destroyed critical infrastructures before leaving, insane criminals, in winter....

Claims that Ukraine would be able to advance on the eastern bank of the Dnipro river are just bluster, that's completely unrealistic for now. A land-based offense from Zap toward Melitopol sounds more feasible, but comes with the risk of getting caught with a pincer movement and possibly even fully encircled.

And there is of course the big question mark of how lasting and devastating the damage from the Russian attacks on Ukraine's electricity and heating grid will be. At the current rate, Ukraine's civilian population might well "run out of steam" before its military.