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Mar 11 2018 01:01pm
Quote (Scaly @ Mar 11 2018 01:34pm)
Lol. Why would they? NK offers them virtually nothing.


except the main thing that you obviously are missing is a dictatorship..you think they want any more democracies around there? LOL
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Mar 11 2018 01:36pm
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I think this deserves a thread properly entitled as war threatens to break out at any moment between the US and NK

Just wondering. How much time has to pass before we can accept this was an incorrect assumption? Or do we go with it was only avoided because Kim is so patient and skilled in dealing with the US?

If this was already addressed I apologize, wasn't gonna sift through 165 pages :P

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Mar 11 2018 01:51pm
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Just wondering. How much time has to pass before we can accept this was an incorrect assumption? Or do we go with it was only avoided because Kim is so patient and skilled in dealing with the US?

If this was already addressed I apologize, wasn't gonna sift through 165 pages :P


Hopefully actual war never happens. But that wouldn't make the OP any less accurate. It's relevant as long as tensions remain high as that is what the discussion is about.
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Mar 11 2018 01:57pm
Quote (Scaly @ Mar 11 2018 02:51pm)
Hopefully actual war never happens. But that wouldn't make the OP any less accurate. It's relevant as long as tensions remain high as that is what the discussion is about.


I saw this on the web. Kinda disputes this idea. But seems to be human nature to incessantly worry

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/01/11/should-you-worry-about-a-u-s-war-with-north-korea-not-really/

Granted I don't like the saber rattling that has gone on for the last 50 yrs with NK, but what is the realistic alternative?
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Mar 11 2018 04:19pm
Quote (FullArcFG @ 11 Mar 2018 19:57)
I saw this on the web. Kinda disputes this idea. But seems to be human nature to incessantly worry

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/01/11/should-you-worry-about-a-u-s-war-with-north-korea-not-really/

Granted I don't like the saber rattling that has gone on for the last 50 yrs with NK, but what is the realistic alternative?


Well we're gonna find out as NK is extremely close to having nukes that can hit the US mainland if they haven't got them already.

If Trump's May talks don't go well we could see a return to his insistence on making a pre-emptive strike on NK. If he does that then there could genuinely be a war.

Even the article you quoted lists 'airstrikes on Korean soil' as 'unacceptable'. While we have a president who is repeatedly arguing for that to happen we truly are on the brink.

This post was edited by Scaly on Mar 11 2018 04:21pm
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Mar 11 2018 05:56pm
I don't think "we" have a president. But the USA has a president. If I'm not mistaken you are not a citizen of the US. But I guess you may be implying we as the world. But this is just baseless fear mongering.

There won't be any pre emptive strikes. Really reminds me of history. Gen. Patton at the end of WW2 wanted to attack Russia. He pointed out we were going to fight them eventually, might as well do it while we had all our military in place and while they were at their weakest. He was removed for that.

For years during the Cold War it was pointed out that he may have been right. But when the Soviet Union eventually split in the 80's it proved him wrong.

That's what i see here. War is not inevitable, I think this is already been proved wrong. But hey, I could be mistaken. I hope not
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Mar 12 2018 04:50am
Trump meeting with Kim will only serve NK to reinforce what they have. With the weak nuclear arsenal they now possess, they are being treated on semi-equal footing, instead of just having demands made at them. Which I believe to be entirely the point for the NK regime. This goes for both China and the US, as both stand to gain by interfering in NK politics.

NK is not going to terminate its nuclear program without significant concessions (withdrawal from SK peninsula, no more military involvement etc). So the meeting is likely not going to have much effect at all.
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Mar 12 2018 05:02am
Quote (FullArcFG @ Mar 11 2018 02:36pm)
Just wondering. How much time has to pass before we can accept this was an incorrect assumption? Or do we go with it was only avoided because Kim is so patient and skilled in dealing with the US?

If this was already addressed I apologize, wasn't gonna sift through 165 pages :P


Lets get them in a room and see how they act before you assume that both of them are going to turn a new leaf and be intelligent and reasonable.

When people like you are saying these talks are successful without them ever have happened, well, credibity strained.

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 12 2018 05:03am
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Mar 12 2018 05:26am
Oh man I forgot this thread existed. What a goldmine
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Oh man I forgot this thread existed. What a goldmine


Hopefully it doesn't turn into a uranium mine. As far as probability goes you couldn't get much higher.

Thank you nuclear physicist. Fags.
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