Putin 'has been offered surrender terms by the West' as he loses control of Kherson.

Everything back except Crimea that would become a demilitarized zone without discussion until 2029. Which is a solution accepted by many people.

I doubt Putin accept anyway considering this could weaknening him to death, along with all his great mafioso-terrorists buddies.

is it true the Americans are making around 100 Million USD nett profit per shipment of gas they are sending to Germany during this current situation?

probably. so what.



source ?

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 11 2022 02:49pm

Lets assume this is true, the probability russians would accept it is probably something like 0.00001%. The russian government and army would collapse in an hours notice and you would have a coup.

Why even write it?

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 11 2022 02:57pm

That is crazy profits. If only they can charge a bit cheaper, they can help lower the energy prices in Germany a little bit more.
But then again , maybe the shipment cost a lot. I m not sure about that, i am listening to a talk show at the moment.

Americans, as they should be, are selling gas at market price of LNG which is 4x what they charge for their own buyers

People talk about merkel and russian dependency, thing is being dependant on LNG from US is 10 times worse (we talking logistics, prices etc)

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 11 2022 03:00pm

I am listening a talk show from Taiwan at the moment.
They are wondering why as friends and allies they are charging them so much and China is also selling them but at 2x the price but China is the "enemy".
But this is the capitalistic nature of business and i guess there is nothing wrong with it , but a bit of discount will definitely help a long way.

If i was in charge of europe, i would align europe with russia and push for a european-bloc and the main geopolitical aim would be china and US pitted against eachother. Play both sides, maximize european growth.


This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 11 2022 03:10pm

I would have done the same
use China, North Korea, Taiwan to be my "first island" chain

Cheap energy+materials from russia, strong economy and growth + a good security apparatus, giving parts of ukraine is completely irrelevant in comparison to that. There is no reason why russia shouldn't be in the european union. People will laugh at this, but they prefere europe being torn apart and pushed into bloc politics that are unfavourable, a russia that is chinas bitch is in no shape or form beneficial for europe. Europeans are monkies really.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 11 2022 03:12pm