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Nov 10 2022 01:26pm
Quote (ownyaah @ 11 Nov 2022 03:18)
Will be interesting to see what happens now.

-Russia has completely stopped attacks on Ukrainian electricity
-ZNPP has been reconnected to Ukraine
-Kherson was handed over
-US/Russia talking about backdoor negotiations
-Russia still putting 200k more forces on the front


Well, Putin is not going to G20 so there will be no direct meeting with Biden.
I was watching a Taiwanese Geo Political news talk show today , they commented on Zelensky going to start negotiations with Kremlin even though previously the only way for him to negotiate is when Putin is gone.
That being said Zelensky is probably making this move because of the Midterms in USA and depending who wins , it might have some sort of effect on this war with the Republicans showing some signs of weariness with this conflict.

However, the terms that Zelensky might ask for will be the return of all occupied lands including Crimea which obviously will not be possible. Zelensky cannot afford to give away lands or there might be a chance he will get assassinated by his own people if he does during the "peace" negotiations.
So it is basically a deadlock and war will continue.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 10 2022 10:26pm)
Well, Putin is not going to G20 so there will be no direct meeting with Biden.
I was watching a Taiwanese Geo Political news talk show today , they commented on Zelensky going to start negotiations with Kremlin even though previously the only way for him to negotiate is when Putin is gone.
That being said Zelensky is probably making this move because of the Midterms in USA and depending who wins , it might have some sort of effect on this war with the Republicans showing some signs of weariness with this conflict.

However, the terms that Zelensky might ask for will be the return of all occupied lands including Crimea which obviously will not be possible. Zelensky cannot afford to give away lands or there might be a chance he will get assassinated by his own people if he does during the "peace" negotiations.
So it is basically a deadlock and war will continue.


There are many things that point to the war being frozen, why did Russians stop strikes on electricity? Why are they providing electricity via ZNPP?

If russians don't restart strikes on electricty in the next 30 days, that means a deal has been done. Europe folded because they don't want 15+million refugees, and russians folded in that they weren't willing to truely mobilize their army (turning it into a real war, rather than a girly-theater). If strikes on electricity are continued, that is a 100% indicator for serious escalation.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 10 Nov 2022 22:26)
Well, Putin is not going to G20 so there will be no direct meeting with Biden.
I was watching a Taiwanese Geo Political news talk show today , they commented on Zelensky going to start negotiations with Kremlin even though previously the only way for him to negotiate is when Putin is gone.
That being said Zelensky is probably making this move because of the Midterms in USA and depending who wins , it might have some sort of effect on this war with the Republicans showing some signs of weariness with this conflict.

However, the terms that Zelensky might ask for will be the return of all occupied lands including Crimea which obviously will not be possible. Zelensky cannot afford to give away lands or there might be a chance he will get assassinated by his own people if he does during the "peace" negotiations.
So it is basically a deadlock and war will continue.


Vietnam scenario is more realistic
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There are many things that point to the war being frozen, why did Russians stop strikes on electricity? Why are they providing electricity via ZNPP?

If russians don't restart strikes on electricty in the next 30 days, that means a deal has been done. Europe folded because they don't want 15+million refugees, and russians folded in that they weren't willing to truely mobilize their army (turning it into a real war, rather than a girly-theater)


You think the midterms in USA might affect this war?
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 10 2022 10:37pm)
You think the midterms in USA might affect this war?


I think midterms are overstated. Both republicans and democrats, and libertarians, understand that china is their biggest threat. Obama started the shifting of resources from middle east, towards asia, as was continued by Trump+Biden. At this point in time it is a fact that Russia has fallen into Chinese-sphere and that is essentially irreversible, so I don't see why republicans wouldn't keep the pressure on Russia, and try their best to keep Europe divided(so that Eurasian can't gain full traction).

All roads lead China in one way or another. Americans are even also getting spooked in the middle east, and other places realigning and trying to join brics+shanghai etc

But really, there is too much speculation going on, we have no idea what's gonna happen now. But keep eyes open for indicators of escalation or if it is getting frozen, personally i think Russia will wait their 300k, and trash Ukrainian electricity then go on the move. (It would be massive L if Russians at the very least don't secure Donbass)

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Quote (ownyaah @ 11 Nov 2022 03:45)
I think midterms are overstated. Both republicans and democrats, and libertarians, understand that china is their biggest threat. Obama started the shifting of resources from middle east, towards asia, as was continued by Trump+Biden. At this point in time it is a fact that Russia has fallen into Chinese-sphere and that is essentially irreversible, so I don't see why republicans wouldn't keep the pressure on Russia, and try their best to keep Europe divided(so that Eurasian can't gain full traction).

All roads lead China in one way or another. Americans are even also getting spooked in the middle east, and other places realigning and trying to join brics+shanghai etc


Absolutely true, I think that was the reason why the Obama Administration started the Trans Pacific Partnership in the first place which I am not sure why Trump got rid of it.
Do you think USA will shift more resources to the East and start to lower their assistance in financing / weapons etc etc to Ukraine ? I know they are getting Europe to pay for the Ukraine war as well, but the US is currently the biggest donator.

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Absolutely true, I think that was the reason why the Obama Administration started the Trans Pacific Partnership in the first place which I am not sure why Trump got rid of it.
Do you think USA will shift more resources to the East and start to lower their assistance in financing / weapons etc etc to Ukraine ? I know they are getting Europe to pay for the Ukraine war as well, but the US is currently the biggest donator.


Trump got rid of it because he basically wanted to show "prioritize US-economy and better worker&industry in the US rather than getting ripped off by others".

US will keep paying resources, for as long as they think the Ukrainians can/want keep going. But there has to be a balance, because if Russia fully commits then that might just break Ukraine completely. Cheaper to pay with weapons than in the future with weapons+blood is the thought process. This is why i am pointing to the electricity-indication, because that might actually break Ukraine and europe (10+million refugee wave), but once again this is speculation, and speculation is rarely entirely correct

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Trump got rid of it because he basically wanted to show "prioritize US-economy and better worker&industry in the US rather than getting ripped off by others".

US will keep paying resources, for as long as they think the Ukrainians can/want keep going. But there has to be a balance, because if Russia fully commits then that might just break Ukraine completely. Cheaper to pay with weapons than in the future with weapons+blood is the thought process. This is why i am pointing to the electricity-indication, because that might actually break Ukraine and europe (10+million refugee wave), but once again this is speculation, and speculation is rarely entirely correct


I heard from Taiwan news they already shifted the first batch of TSMC Engineers to the US, not sure how accurate , their immediate families will be next.
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I heard from Taiwan news they already shifted the first batch of TSMC Engineers to the US, not sure how accurate , their immediate families will be next.


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