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Nov 8 2022 02:08pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 04:03pm)
why don't you just link to the contract between gorbachev and "the west" that allegedly states NATO will not expand further east? should be a super easy gotcha moment.

oh right, such a thing simply does not exist. many sources outright deny such a promise was ever made, the closest thing is opinions that gorbachev was led to believe it wouldn't happen.


an interesting read for those who still believe in that kremlin propaganda:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/


Yeah I wasn't sharing that for you, just wanted to post the info for people who care enough to read.
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Nov 8 2022 02:11pm
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Yeah I wasn't sharing that for you, just wanted to post the info for people who care enough to read.


you didn't "share" anything with anybody, simply because what you're alleging there DOES NOT EXIST, IT NEVER DID, lol. you were had. you fell for propaganda. there was no such promise, you're perpetuating a kremlin lie. do you know what a "useful idiot" is?
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Nov 8 2022 02:12pm
Quote (Palasan @ Nov 8 2022 09:07pm)
Seems like nobody is listening to you and for a good reason, its funny how you turn everything into personal vendettas, continue throwing feces all you want monkey.


You should look back and note that I've engaged in reasonable debate with sources all through this thread. You're the one flinging shit around at everyone that doesn't bow to fucking ukraine lol and I fling it back at you.

Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 09:08pm)
"feeling", lol. even a lazy hack like you knows for a FACT that there is literally a 0% chance that NATO would ever try to INVADE fucking russia. not only because it has nothing to gain from it in the first place, but more importantly because russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the entire world. any NATO attack on russia itself would mean the end of this planet. pootin knows that, every single halfway intelligent person on this planet knows that, and i bet even you russia bots do. it's nothing but an excuse. a bully trying to portray himself as the victim. a man who has murdered political opposition and journalists for decades, a man who has repeatedly invaded his neighbours, killing thousands of people, telling the world he's slaughtering ukrainians because he felt "threatened" - and the dumbest of the dumb repeat it as if it made any sense whatsoever, lol...


Go tell the other side you're just surrounding them for fun shits and giggles.

Tell em your missiles cause no harm, that you painted smileys and flowers on them maybe they believe you and let you carry on.

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Nov 8 2022 02:13pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 04:11pm)
you didn't "share" anything with anybody, simply because what you're alleging there DOES NOT EXIST, IT NEVER DID, lol. you were had. you fell for propaganda. there was no such promise, you're perpetuating a kremlin lie. do you know what a "useful idiot" is?


Calm down man lol

Again for anyone interested, you can look up what I mentioned, not hard to find and they are great resources for people who care enough to read about the subject. Lmk if you have trouble finding links and I can post.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Nov 8 2022 02:14pm
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Quote (Djunior @ Nov 8 2022 10:12pm)
You should look back and note that I've engaged in reasonable debate with sources all through this thread. You're the one flinging shit around at everyone that doesn't bow to fucking ukraine lol and I fling it back at you.



Go tell the other side you're just surrounding them for fun shits and giggles.

Tell em your missiles cause no harm, that you painted smileys and flowers on them maybe they believe you and let you carry on.

/


Your debates and sources are as hollow as yourself. Reciting Russian propaganda is all you do as you clearly shown to lack the necessary intellectual capacity to research things yourself. Sorry you don't like the cold bitter truth, you will have to live with it and learn to adapt to it.

Reposting this video as it was lost in the midst.



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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 8 Nov 2022 21:13)
Calm down man lol

Again for anyone interested, you can look up what I mentioned, not hard to find and they are great resources for people who care enough to read about the subject. Lmk if you have trouble finding links and I can post.


i'm perfectly calm, buddy. i'm just pointing out that when you replied to my post stating "the gorbachev agreement is a lie, there is no such thing" (replying to someone erroneously stating there was a NATO promise not to expand east after the german re-unification) that "you can find the declassified documents on NATO expansion in the national security archive", you were lying - because there are no such documents, because there was no such promise.

of course you don't want to admit that, so you just pretend like you would only link them if someone other than me asks, but the simple truth is you're perpetuating a kremlin lie. there is no agreement, and there are no documents to the contrary, not in the national archives, nor in pootin's possession.

again: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/

Quote (Djunior @ 8 Nov 2022 21:12)
You should look back and note that I've engaged in reasonable debate with sources all through this thread. You're the one flinging shit around at everyone that doesn't bow to fucking ukraine lol and I fling it back at you.



Go tell the other side you're just surrounding them for fun shits and giggles.

Tell em your missiles cause no harm, that you painted smileys and flowers on them maybe they believe you and let you carry on.

/


i love how you have to ignore my post completely in order to make that pathetic attempt to double down on your kremlin propaganda.

meanwhile in reality, there is literally a 0% chance that NATO would ever try to INVADE russia. not only because it has nothing to gain from it in the first place, but more importantly because russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the entire world. any NATO attack on russia itself would mean the end of this planet. pootin knows that, every single halfway intelligent person on this planet knows that. it's nothing but an excuse. a bully trying to portray himself as the victim. a man who has murdered political opposition and journalists for decades, a man who has repeatedly invaded his neighbours, killing thousands of people, telling the world he's slaughtering ukrainians because he felt "threatened". the most obvious lie in history...
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Nov 8 2022 02:33pm
This entire topic is filled with dogshit tier discussion ngl
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Nov 8 2022 02:34pm
why do you even converse with him, did you not see his carry on a few months ago. it is literally a waste of time he is not suited to this.
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Nov 8 2022 02:34pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 09:28pm)
i'm perfectly calm, buddy. i'm just pointing out that when you replied to my post stating "the gorbachev agreement is a lie, there is no such thing" (replying to someone erroneously stating there was a NATO promise not to expand east after the german re-unification) that "you can find the declassified documents on NATO expansion in the national security archive", you were lying - because there are no such documents, because there was no such promise.

of course you don't want to admit that, so you just pretend like you would only link them if someone other than me asks, but the simple truth is you're perpetuating a kremlin lie. there is no agreement, and there are no documents to the contrary, not in the national archives, nor in pootin's possession.

again: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/



i love how you have to ignore my post completely in order to make that pathetic attempt to double down on your kremlin propaganda.

meanwhile in reality, there is literally a 0% chance that NATO would ever try to INVADE russia. not only because it has nothing to gain from it in the first place, but more importantly because russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the entire world. any NATO attack on russia itself would mean the end of this planet. pootin knows that, every single halfway intelligent person on this planet knows that. it's nothing but an excuse. a bully trying to portray himself as the victim. a man who has murdered political opposition and journalists for decades, a man who has repeatedly invaded his neighbours, killing thousands of people, telling the world he's slaughtering ukrainians because he felt "threatened". the most obvious lie in history...


You COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT

What the other side is interested in is that they are being surrounded from all sides.

You are incapable to see that it's a problem in international politics and just shows how dumb you are.

BTW if russia was just another country like iraq or libya there wouldn't be a problem they'd be levelled by now and it would be called russian spring, lol

Fucking hypocrite

This post was edited by Djunior on Nov 8 2022 02:41pm
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Nov 8 2022 02:35pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 8 2022 11:34pm)
You COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT

What the other side is interested in is that they are being surrounded from all sides.

You are incapable to see that it's a problem in international politics and just shows how dumb you are.

BTW if russia was just another country like iraq or libya their wouldn't be a problem they'd be levelled by now and it would be called russian spring, lol

Fucking hypocrite


why are u wasting your time, fender is 100% a troll lol
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