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Nov 8 2022 01:26pm
Quote (Palasan @ Nov 8 2022 03:20pm)
Fuel issues as they may, but you are screaming about "freezing to death" here while EU tanks full for the heating season and record high temperatures all over Europe right now. Go play with your sandcastles kid.


I dont even know what comment you are referring to but the only people that might freeze to death are Ukrainians, I dont think I've ever said the rest of Europe would, but they will for sure face energy issues because they already are facing them, look at literally any news about it from any European country.

You are being wilfully ignorant if you think energy/fuel problems aren't going to be a major deciding factor of this war.
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Nov 8 2022 01:27pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 8 2022 09:23pm)
Only shocked how poorly russian army performed.
1 month on they went from pretending to be a modernized force, to 20th century indiscriminate shelling.
They haven't evolved since Chechnya.
I used to think Russia was a paper tiger militarily .
Now I'm utterly convinced NATO would wipe the floor with them


Its an armed mob of largely ethnic criminal elements, sewn together with guys who dont understand why they are there and what they are trying to achieve, grasping on shitty plastic propaganda to justify something they themself don't agree with.
Add some IT guys with questionable backgrounds and Putin with a nuclear button and that's all it is.

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Nov 8 2022 01:27pm
Quote (Djunior @ 8 Nov 2022 20:17)
McCaine wasn't sent by the Kremlin

Neither was Verhofstadt ;)


no. yanukovych was though, and the ukrainians rejected him and his blatant defiance of the voters' will. you should do some reading and stop uncritically regurgitating kremlin propaganda...
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Nov 8 2022 01:29pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 8 2022 10:25pm)
Why was Libya bombed?

Why did the West bomb Syria?

And why was that called Arab Spring, lol


Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 8 2022 10:24pm)
so your idea of "legitimacy" is based on agreements? Agreements rarely are "legitimate" or timeless, they are often arbitrary or used as political tool.

A few of millions of examples of agreements going to shit:

UNSC "agreed" on a no fly zone in libya (nato bombed it to shit)

kranie/russia "agreed" on minsk 1 and 2. (ukraine bombed donbass to shit)

gorbachev and west "agreed" on no westward expansion (nato is at russias doorstep)

What agreement is there for US to be in syria, at TANEF? What international judgement? Are you trolling?


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 8 2022 10:25pm)


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Quote (Djunior @ 9 Nov 2022 03:25)
Why was Libya bombed?




SARIR Blend. Low Sulfur very sweet crude. B)
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Nov 8 2022 01:30pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 8 2022 09:25pm)
Why was Libya bombed?

Why did the West bomb Syria?

And why was that called Arab Spring, lol


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Nov 8 2022 01:31pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 08:27pm)
no. yanukovych was though, and the ukrainians rejected him and his blatant defiance of the voters' will. you should do some reading and stop uncritically regurgitating kremlin propaganda...


No, you should realize that the West has been expanding East since 1991, that cannot be denied.

That's all fine with me, you've never heard me complain about that before. No one cared.

But Ukraine is not worth WW3 and you're fucking dumb if you think it is.


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Nov 8 2022 01:32pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 8 2022 10:29pm)
SARIR Blend. Low Sulfur very sweet crude. B)


I personally think that is actually overstated.

The main reason the destruction of Libya happened was because of France. Khaddafi was creating a "united african union", which would be a counter-power to areas that have historically been under French (sphere of power).

A large portion of African security was financed by libya by the way. So after libyas destruction these countries have been ravaged by islamists which in turn has made them fairly unstable.
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Nov 8 2022 01:33pm
Quote (Palasan @ Nov 8 2022 08:30pm)


Hi lviv lvivz palasan jamesroberts
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Quote (Palasan @ Nov 8 2022 07:27pm)
Its an armed mob of largely ethnic criminal elements, sewn together with guys who dont understand why they are there and what they are trying to achieve, grasping on shitty plastic propaganda to justify something they themself don't agree with.
Add some IT guys with questionable backgrounds and Putin with a nuclear button and that's all it is.


Agree with alot of that. The only upside I can see for the authoritarian powers Russia, China and their peripheral allies, such as North Korea or Belarus.
Is that with authority comes a conviction in direction. Whether that direction Is to benefit of the majority of people. Or as in the case with Ukraine to the benefit of the Russian regime.

Western democracies are slower and more prudent in action
Particularly China would have a highly motivated wartime industry.
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