funny coming from a pale pasty privileged lefty who has been reliant on the government for sustenance and support their entire life

inb4 your typical repressed frustrated homophobic retort

Hello!

Well, no, there isn't a middle solution. I am a capitalist as previously mentioned and will never agree with any form of taking someone else's money and giving it to another able-bodied person who didn't earn it.

Social safety nets and Socialism are two very different things. In America we do have Social safety nets:

- Unemployment insurance for unexpected loss of jobs.
- Disability insurance for those who unfortunately experience that.
- Short-term welfare for hard times.
- Community police which is a benefit to everyone's tax dollars (unlike the take and give I mentioned above where only one benefits).
- Community fire protection which is a benefit to everyone's tax dollars (unlike the take and give I mentioned above where only one benefits).
- Food pantries for those who are really struggling to eat but can still pay rent.
- Warming stations for the homeless during the winter (not everyone is homeless in America due to economics -- some deal with hard struggles such as addiction that cause this, too). I personally donated $200 to a pizza party for them next month - been doing it for years and the residents have come to love and cherish that event.

Finally, Capitalism also allowed me the financial means to donate $50 a month to St. Judes and $35 a month to Shriner's Hospitals for Children. Even better? It's matched by my company, so in reality, St Jude's gets $100 a month and Shriner's gets $70. It's a wonderful, wonderful thing to know the fruits of one's hard work can be used to help a child in need. That's the true capitalist mentality if we are being fair.

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jan 22 2022 02:55pm

Police, fire, public schools, libraries, EMTALA in hospitals with ERs, public roads and sidewalks, examples of socialism.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 22 2022 02:59pm

Nah; you forgot education cost and health care, your safety net is a lie. And you have the indecence to list some charity donation... (which you are probably use to get less taxes)
So yeah when i see this kind of attitude the best i hope is your company get its market sucked out soon or later by a giant conglomerate.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jan 22 2022 03:04pm

They aren't, though. All of that is covered through your typical state tax paycheck deductions (and in some states, it's handled without even deducting $1 from your paycheck for state taxes - FL and TX are good examples).

Communism (Socialism) is taking physical cash from your pocket and giving it to someone else directly, regardless of who provides a greater value for the compensation and regardless of whether you benefit a single bit from said transfer of wealth.

That's not the same as willingly, collectively, and agreeingly paying for public services that all tax payers benefit from. I'd have to strongly push back on that.

Hello again!

So I will only consider one thing here to respond to, as the rest simply seems to be anger-fueled and I am more here for civil conversation

"And you have the indecence to list some charity donation... (which you are probably use to get less taxes)"

One would reasonably think that possible, but it isn't. None of my donations have qualified for tax write-offs because in sum, they are too small of an amount (I don't have millions to donate but would if I could).

It would cost me more to use the itemized feature than the standard deduction, so, they actually have gone unnoticed (some for as long as 12 years).



To your most recent comment -- sorry, I do not understand what you are trying to convey, and I do not know what a "brown cake" is.

This post was edited by CyrusTheGreat on Jan 22 2022 03:15pm

You don't actually understand what capitalism, communism, or socialism mean when they are used, so you will keep having these miscommunications.

Education and Healthcare are saying "thank you"




He probably knows it (if not, well, it's terrible), I think he's just trolling the shit out by dodging it and maintaining a self-made brown cake narrative...
Taxes is the hot spot usually.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jan 22 2022 03:14pm

You guys still say this easily debunked nonsense?

Paying taxes to fund a local police/fire service that everyone wants is very different from a despotic government taking your money, your means of making money, and doling it out as they see fit.

Your argument is, because you have public services, let us take over everything and starve you to death for not maskng up.

This post was edited by Nibthebarb on Jan 22 2022 03:16pm

Perpetually debunked moron uses the word debunked.