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Jan 22 2022 03:18pm

Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 22 2022 03:15pm)
You guys still say this easily debunked nonsense?

Paying taxes to fund a local police/fire service that everyone wants is very different from a despotic government taking your money, your means of making money, and doling it out as they see fit.

Your argument is, because you have public services, let us take over everything and starve you to death for not maskng up.


Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 22 2022 03:09pm)
You don't actually understand what capitalism, communism, or socialism mean when they are used, so you will keep having these miscommunications.


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Jan 22 2022 03:19pm
Quote (Sh00p @ Jan 22 2022 01:17pm)
Perpetually debunked moron uses the word debunked.


I don't see an argument or counter argument, just more personal insults as usual.

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Jan 22 2022 08:16pm
Quote (CyrusTheGreat @ Jan 22 2022 04:04pm)
They aren't, though. All of that is covered through your typical state tax paycheck deductions (and in some states, it's handled without even deducting $1 from your paycheck for state taxes - FL and TX are good examples).

Communism (Socialism) is taking physical cash from your pocket and giving it to someone else directly, regardless of who provides a greater value for the compensation and regardless of whether you benefit a single bit from said transfer of wealth.

That's not the same as willingly, collectively, and agreeingly paying for public services that all tax payers benefit from. I'd have to strongly push back on that.


Do you think Jeff bezos and the rest actually provide the amount of value for the wealth they have? Foh
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Jan 22 2022 08:36pm
Quote (GodSmiter @ Jan 22 2022 09:16pm)
Do you think Jeff bezos and the rest actually provide the amount of value for the wealth they have? Foh


It's actually very, very good that you brought this up because this ties into exactly how Communism begins and why many are so vocal in current day.

Amazon took no hits at all during the COVID situation and is still fulfilling same and next-day deliveries while so many other businesses (with the incorrect politics / small business which is the true epitome of freedom and biggest threat to Communism) struggle to this day under constant regulation that is squeezing many so tightly they are closing their doors.

Joe Biden ran on making the rich pay their fair share. The richest man in arguably the world certainly isn't losing any money in the process or paying more in taxes. Neither is Bill Gates, MSM anchors or anyone else with the correct politics. Elon Musk challenges the establishment and suddenly he's more of a tax evader than the guy who is worth multiples of him (he used to be praised by these same people, remember?). Does that make logical sense?

That's the foundation of a Communist society - the "friends" of the leader with the correct politics get to profit while the rest get a pre-determined amount with no economic mobility. You'd just need to look at China and the CCP for a great example.

For a good view of a current trial run, take a look at the US state of CA. It's not pretty at all.

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Jan 22 2022 10:18pm
Quote (GodSmiter @ Jan 22 2022 09:16pm)
Do you think Jeff bezos and the rest actually provide the amount of value for the wealth they have? Foh


The sum of Jeff Bezos's "wealth" is the company he created, so absolutely.

More to the point, you can't have a system where Jeff Bezos simultaneously creates trillion dollar companies and one where governments routinely seize the entirety of his assets.
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Jan 23 2022 12:21am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 22 2022 10:18pm)
The sum of Jeff Bezos's "wealth" is the company he created, so absolutely.

More to the point, you can't have a system where Jeff Bezos simultaneously creates trillion dollar companies and one where governments routinely seize the entirety of his assets.


Thats dumb. You totally could as long as its compensated.

You think bezos wouldn't create amazon if at the start he would only get a billion dollar payout?
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Jan 23 2022 03:48am
oh boy its hilarious watching 9-5 simps discuss value of business owners. Its like they cry but read Marx or some other literature to their version of paradise.

Yet they haven't hired anyone or raised capital or hustled one time much less understanding how business drives this world
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Jan 23 2022 04:00am
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oh boy its hilarious watching 9-5 simps discuss value of business owners. Its like they cry but read Marx or some other literature to their version of paradise.

Yet they haven't hired anyone or raised capital or hustled one time much less understanding how business drives this world


i guess people have a strong need of your uncorking of toilets giant company strategics
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 23 2022 11:00pm)
i guess people have a strong need of your uncorking of toilets giant company strategics


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Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 22 2022 03:15pm)
You guys still say this easily debunked nonsense?

Paying taxes to fund a local police/fire service that everyone wants is very different from a despotic government taking your money, your means of making money, and doling it out as they see fit.

Your argument is, because you have public services, let us take over everything and starve you to death for not maskng up.


Excellent deduction.
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