Caring about his death is such an inefficient use of time and effort holy shit how is this controversial.

I think that quoting police statistics is a way of worming around the main issue. Uniformed police officers are merely an instrument of a much larger system. They are one arm of the law that enforce the will of people like Donald Sterling; rich and powerful people that insulate themselves from backlash and have carte blanche to instill their racist agenda into society.

The reality is that there are a lot of kids in urban areas (many of them black) who were born into a situation where their dad is in jail and their mom is a crack addict. People born into this situation are oppressed. Candace quotes the violent offenders statistic and implies that that statistic is exclusively the fault of the violent offenders. That is not the reality. People like Donald Sterling also have a role to play in keeping the urban (many black) kids in situations where they are raised without knowing a different way to live. The police are merely frontline instrument of this oppression. They are merely the figurative "knee on the neck". There is much more going on than just that front line. There's also a gun in the holster, a radio that can call for backup, and a system of judges and lawyers ready to make sure those cops can do whatever they want with their knees.

While she may have a point that black people could do more to help themselves, there is only so much they can do to turn the tide. When they have billionaires and politicians working against them to keep them oppressed, they can't be expected to make much progress. They shouldn't have to fight that uphill battle.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Jun 6 2020 08:02pm

Why not make the movement more broad to bring in the largest amount of people possible? Police brutality is worst in poorer areas regardless of race. Making it specifically about race narrows support. BLM the organization also is not a good banner to march under.

Dont call for race specific policy. Policy that effects those having the worst time will obviously disproportionately effect the black community.

Highlight criminal behavior in the black community. The amount of crime coming from young black men is incredibly troubling. The best way to change this is to highlight it and bring shame to americans as a whole and more specifically the black community who can have the largest impact on changing their culture.

With all the examples of the abuse of power during these protests we could achieve change. Sadly that change isn't likely to happen since a large part of those calling for change cant see past race.

No role models :/

If you have any suggestions on how to bring the 2A protesters from a few weeks ago into the fold, we're all ears. For some reason when it's time to put up or shut up, they seem to back all the way down to their computer chairs.

I think Killer Mike is a pretty damn good role model.

I agree with all that. None of it conflicts with what I said in my previous post.



But that's where you go off the rails. The best way to change the culture is to create better jobs that are accessible for them. For kids who never knew their father and had drug dealers as "role models", it is unrealistic to expect them to find their own way out. Shaming them for adapting to their culture (rather than transcending it) is unproductive. Stringer Bell does not have the tools to fix Baltimore.

Billionaires and politicians are in position to improve the job market. Instead, they've been doing the opposite.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Jun 6 2020 09:08pm

The black community has a large amount of role models to look up to if they were just highlighted. Business owners, academics (ones that dont push critical race theory), doctors,athletes, basically everything anyone else has. There are plenty of black historical figures that we broadly revere. They get constantly bombarded with the message that the only way out is to wholly rely on government to change their lives.



You agree with my first statement then you deny another part of the issue that needs to be addressed. You're treating the black community like they shouldn't be held to the same standard as other communities.

Don't focus on race. Don't try to use 2A to justify looting and rioting. Don't forget that they were being condemned for gathering in numbers just 3 weeks ago.

Why would any 2A person give a fuck if democrat run cities are getting destroyed? Not our cities, not our problem.