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Apr 26 2019 12:06pm
Quote (excellence @ Apr 26 2019 12:05pm)
B-but if i dont get my $1k why the hell am i gonna join the #YangGang


the memes, probably.
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Apr 26 2019 12:11pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 26 Apr 2019 14:06)
the memes, probably.



B-but the $1k is the meme that will go from a dream to reality
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 22 2019 12:19am)
One of the better Democrats. I judge based on the things he's talking about. He's tackling economics, a real issue, and skipped the Orange Man Bad routine or identity politics. I think long term his UBI plan is flawed and would actually increase illegal immigration, the debt, devalue our dollar, etc, but it's a breath of fresh air to hear a Democrat not play the usual card we've been hearing from the rest of them.


He's praying on the dependant people. Easy votes.
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Apr 30 2019 06:42pm
I can't wait to spend my 1K on Bitcoin.
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gunna be spending my 1k on risky financial derivatives
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gunna be spending my 1k on risque anime figurines
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Apr 30 2019 09:13pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 26 2019 12:36pm)
it's pretty simple, just pass a law that you can't increase the rent by more than a set number based on inflation without prerequisite upgrades to the home.

but as i discussed with Ofthevoid earlier using 1k$/person as an actual number is a really bad idea if you want to have a serious conversation. Citing Yang will also get you pointed to that same conversation, Yang is a politician who's building a brand around a round number. 1000$/adult isn't a realistic number, and it needs to be heavily controlled for existing aid. 500 or less would be a more realisitc cap, and for many americans it would be less or even zero. something like 22-65 would be a more realistic age range, as well.



rent control already exists in many major cites.


I watched his Shapiro interview, there were some nice talking points. he states he selected the $1k number because that was a number that could provide relief but simultaneously not be a replacement for work.

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I watched his Shapiro interview, there were some nice talking points. he states he selected the $1k number because that was a number that could provide relief but simultaneously not be a replacement for work.


But the thing is, it would still cost the state $330bn per month, or almost $4 trillion per year. There's no way to finance this without either raising taxes or cutting entitlements and benefits elsewhere or massively reducing the pool of eligible persons. Or paying for it with debt, which would cause inflation and in the end lead to a massive redistribution from those with cash savings and those relying mostly on work incomes; to the benefit of those with low incomes and those with high asset fortunes. That is, paying for it with debt would equal a massive bleeding of the middle class to the benefit of the poor and the rich.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 26 2019 06:16pm)
Seriously: when everyone suddenly has $1k in additional income per month, what's stopping landlords in sought-after cities/districts from raising every rent by $1k at the next opportunity?
This might be a bit of a simplistic description, but the problem should be clear anyway: how do we prevent this additional income from immediately being redistributed in large parts from renters to landlords?

That's just another example for the more general point I made pages ago: increasing the purchasing power of every citizen by the equivalent of 1000 (present-day) dollars is highly nontrivial, and handing everyone $1k will absolutely definitely not be enough to achieve this goal.


You're overlooking simple supply and demand here. Nothing should stop them from doing so, but if some landlords increase rent by $1k they wouldn't get any takers. If the rental market becomes more expensive it becomes relatively cheaper for people to buy new build homes and presents a greater incentive for building merchants to increase supply. In addition, there is plenty of land to build on in the US so the barriers to entry are very low excluding the major cities, which helps to ensure competitive pricing in the market.

Rent payments make up less than 40% of disposal income expenditure and there is no evidence consumers would spend their further disposable income solely on property. I'd argue that the more likely result of increasing personal wealth is switching from expensive renting accommodation to more manageable, fixed rate mortgages.

I'd be more worried about inflationary pressure on healthcare and energy.

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Quote (Jupe @ 30 Apr 2019 22:39)
gunna be spending my 1k on risque anime figurines


gunna be spending my $1k on fg and will send 1 fg at a time to Jupe@jsp in my spare time
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