Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 8 Nov 2022 20:10)

The majority inhabitants of Diego Garcia doesn't want to leave their homeland too. Your point ?
He who conquers rules. If Putin fucks it up, too bad for him. If Ukraine couldn't push back and claim back their territory well... it sucks. If Ukraine take some of Russia's land when they win , too bad for Russia.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 8 2022 09:05pm)

Yeah, how silly of me to think Europe might have fuel problems this winter, what an unhinged view of reality.

Lol.

Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 10:06pm)

crimea is ukrainian though, it's just occupied by russia. justifying a war by saying it's needed to consolidate previous crimes is the definition of idiocy.

as for the rest of your propaganda: by that "logic", every country should invade its neighbour based on some arbitrary point in history, economic incentives, and securing of strategic positions. those aren't justifications, those are war goals. you seem confused...

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 8 2022 03:06pm)

I didn't expect that. Putin did :rofl:

Quote (Djunior @ 8 Nov 2022 20:11)

Move the goalposts some more. You asked why Russia invaded Ukraine.

I pointed out the West staged a coup with a source so clear even you should understand.

Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 8 2022 09:12pm)

Crimea has been Russia since they took it from the ottomans, it was "given" to Ukraine during the soviet union in 1954 as an administrative thing. The idea wasn't that a country called "Ukraine" would emerge and turn on Moscow.

Even today something like 68% of Crimea is Russian and 13% tartar ( straight out of wiki ). If you wanna talk about legitimacy, it belongs more to turkey than it does to Ukraine.

I pointed out like 7 very important points, and this is your take? Yeesh, this conversation is done

Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 8 2022 07:12pm)

Crimea has been Russia since they took it from the ottomans, it was "given" to Ukraine during the soviet union in 1954 as an administrative thing. The idea wasn't that a country called "Ukraine" would emerge and turn on Moscow.

Even today something like 68% of Crimea is Russian and 13% tartar ( straight out of wiki ). If you wanna talk about legitimacy, it belongs more to turkey than it does to Ukraine. Nobody, not ukraine, not USA, not germany, not france not a single country seriously even thinks about crimea coming under ukranian control. Russia would nuke ukraine 1000 times over, before that happens. Why would even talk about it?

I pointed out like 7 very important points, and this is your take? Yeesh, this conversation is done

Quote (Palasan @ Nov 8 2022 10:15pm)

It hasn't been given anything, it ceded lands and granted new ones in exchange which made perfect sense economically speaking. Putins endeavors led to Crimeans taking 1 shower every month, what greatness!

Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 10:15pm)

only that it's not true. the ukrainian people were ousted the russian puppet themselves. not that an ACTUAL coup would legitimise russia to repeatedly invade ukraine and slaughter people who clearly don't want to be ruled by russia, lol.

i'm asking for legitimate justifications, not for you to mindlessly regurgitate kremlin propaganda... forgot my crayons though, so it's my fault i guess...

Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2022 08:15pm)

only that it's not true. the ukrainian people were ousted the russian puppet themselves. not that an ACTUAL coup would legitimise russia to repeatedly invade ukraine and slaughter people who clearly don't want to be ruled by russia, lol.

i'm asking for legitimate justifications, not for you to mindlessly regurgitate kremlin propaganda... forgot my crayons though, so it's my fault i guess...

Quote (Palasan @ Nov 8 2022 03:11pm)

Yes, its so bad people are literally starving on the streets looking for white knight like yourself to voice their concerns.

Meanwhile in oil rich Russia, where everything is so perfect and people haven't slept on wood burning stoves for the past 30 years. oh wait...
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