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Mar 12 2022 12:08pm
Quote (sirthom @ 12 Mar 2022 17:54)
Democracy doesn't work for anyone.
It can't, as the majority are morons.

That is why the USA is a republic, not a democracy.


Democracy works even if it's not perfect
Majority is Okay, on the other hand 25% of morons can cause serious issues
US is a federal republic AND a representative demoracy.

Any time i demolish your arguments.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 12 2022 12:08pm)
Democracy works even if it's not perfect
Majority is Okay, on the other hand 25% of morons can cause serious issues
US is a federal republic AND a representative demoracy.

Any time i demolish your arguments.


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Mar 12 2022 01:20pm
Russian tanks were spotted inside the centre of Mariupol earlier today and Ukrainian soldiers destroyed two tanks in the city centre too, so that confirms there has been a Russian advance into Mariupol. No more info at the moment but we'll see if it has been successful soon enough

Russians are also now directly to the West of Kyiv as well as North West and East. Irpin is still being contested though with 2/3 of it being under Russian control and 1/3 Ukrainian. The advance from the East has slowed down due to Ukrainian military and TDF attacking Russian supply lines, which are vulnerable due to the fact they haven't taken Sumy and Chernihiv yet, or many of the towns to the West of Sumy that are in great positions to harrass

Not much change in Mykolaiv, Kharkiv, Chernihiv or Sumy today as far as I can tell
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 12 2022 07:08pm)
Democracy works even if it's not perfect
Majority is Okay, on the other hand 25% of morons can cause serious issues
US is a federal republic AND a representative demoracy.

Any time i demolish your arguments.


the majority is not okay in most countries

you are living proof as you live in a country that democratically elected itself into the abyss and needs the military in the streets to keep the peace

yikes
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 12 Mar 2022 21:39)
the majority is not okay in most countries

you are living proof as you live in a country that democratically elected itself into the abyss and needs the military in the streets to keep the peace

yikes


Are shitmultis okays ?
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Besides all that has been previously discussed, with war on the verge of European borders (whether it's coming or not), are the American people actually willing to defend every square inch of NATO territory that's under attack?

I know that's what your president said, but what's the popular opinion in America? Do the people feel personally involved in a conflict that will likely never affect them directly?

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 12 2022 10:52pm)
Are shitmultis okays ?


pretty decent, yeah

Quote (TheOnlyDenny @ Mar 12 2022 11:07pm)
Besides all that has been previously discussed, with war on the verge of European borders (whether it's coming or not), are the American people actually willing to defend every square inch of NATO territory that's under attack?

I know that's what your president said, but what's the popular opinion in America? Do the people feel personally involved in a conflict that will likely never affect them directly?


dont worry, the same idiots who were afraid of a cold are now pushing for a major escalation, what could possibly go wrong

i will say though that an actual escalation might be too much even for the biggest npc's
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Yeah, the question remains however. We may find it unlikely even now, but just assuming Putin was gonna reach for the NATO members around the Baltic states, do you think there'd actually be a world war for the defense of Lithuania and Latvia?
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Quote (TheOnlyDenny @ 12 Mar 2022 17:07)
Besides all that has been previously discussed, with war on the verge of European borders (whether it's coming or not), are the American people actually willing to defend every square inch of NATO territory that's under attack?

I know that's what your president said, but what's the popular opinion in America? Do the people feel personally involved in a conflict that will likely never affect them directly?

no it’s not our problem. europe started plenty of conflicts without USA help.
the West being in lockstep on sanctions is a positive move imo. unfortunately many innocent russians will suffer, although not nearly as dearly as innocent ukrainians are now.

not like we (USA) help much anymore anyways when it comes to armed conflicts. russia is having problems taking ukraine as it is. putin is being outclassed by a former comedian turned excellent wartime leader. he stands no chance against NATO territory from what we’ve seen

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Quote (TheOnlyDenny @ Mar 12 2022 10:17pm)
Yeah, the question remains however. We may find it unlikely even now, but just assuming Putin was gonna reach for the NATO members around the Baltic states, do you think there'd actually be a world war for the defense of Lithuania and Latvia?


If Russia invaded any Nato State (Latvia is Nato as is Lithuania ), all Nato members are obliged (and would) respond. They would have no choice both from treaty and situation, to declare war on Russia. Its the same as when Ukraine wanted to join Nato, Russia had no choice but to invade.

Putin would only reach/stretch/invade to a Nato country if the war in Ukraine went so bad that he felt no option but to invade. I have not read anything about Latvia or Lithuania recently as to what they are doing to support Ukraine's war effort. I have read about the mig's and airfiends in Poland however. unless i am missing something it would be Poland as a better example of the 1st Nato country to be invaded (from Putin's standpoint) on the basis it is deemed an enemy combatant already?

if the west keeps poking (read: escalation such as launching attacks from nato countries / providing advanced weaponry etc and staging area from nato country) the "unlikely" will probably get closer and closer.

also agree from a conventional standpoint Russia has no chance vs Nato, therein lies the connundrum.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 12 2022 05:53pm
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