https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-11-07-22/h_a8bd7e3d75a2044729b97626cd6365a6

And now Ukrainian officials, who have spent the past years claiming to have shot down 90% of missiles fired (ie 6 missiles hit kiev, so Ukraine says it shot down 54 out of 58 missiles fired and 'only 4 made it through')
...are saying that they actually have no method to shoot down Russian missiles and the only viable defense would be to attack their launch sites;



I mean, that's just the 'duh' reality to anyone who wasn't guzzling propaganda from either side. When Russia is bombarding infrastructure in Kiev with missiles, Ukraine is totally helpless. They could hypothetically escalate by using western-provided weapons to strike deep inside Russia, at which point we'd be well into world war 3. So back in the non-insane branch of history I hope we're following, its basically just a tacit admissions that oops despite all the billions of dollars of funding and mercenary troops and weapons set up, Ukraine is pretty damn helpless going into this winter.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 7 2022 09:39pm

Sorry to say, but this debacle is nothing but a minor prelude to the big one - war with China. A war we're already waging economically (and failing at), and doing our absolute best to kick into high gear by provoking a crisis over Taiwan island (which we will also fail at).

Edit: We won't fail at provoking a crisis, we'll fail at 'winning' or 'losing less' than China.

This post was edited by kusotarre1 on Nov 7 2022 10:31pm

China going to war won't fly with India. The two countries already butt heads due to china invading and land grabs of the past for example.

Edit-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–India_relations

Population
China 2022 estimate - 1,410,539,758
India 2022 estimate - 1,375,586,000

India is the only other country that can match china man to man.

Edit2- The second problem... Little Emperor Syndrome, 1 child policy in china. Once the only child of families comes back in a body bag, Chinese families won't be supportive of a china war.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 7 2022 10:42pm

Anti Air != Anti Rocket

India has nothing to do with it, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't want to derail the thread towards China yet again, I just mean to say that the West has achieved full-spectrum idiocy and no one should ever bank on our political leadership doing sensible things.

But I explained it in my post

No, you made a claim that India gets a say in anything, which it doesn't. It is poor, underdeveloped, crippled by internal divisions and in no state to really do anything except continue enriching the 10 rich families that own everything there.

India is a joke.

History and population estimates are not a claim.

go back to the CCP we dont want you, cali doesnt want you.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 8 2022 12:13am

India could have 3 billion people and the only thing it would change is that it has twice as many poor onion farmers.

They continue to claim to shoot down 90% of rockets with obviously false numbers, on a daily basis. Its clear that Russia is pounding infrastructure with missiles and they are not getting shot down at all, nor are they running out of missiles like pundits kept predicting.