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jamesroberts, hit the stage, you're up
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People here think to prove that sick in za head rus dont have 100% strike rate with missile Ukraine have to upload video and expose locations of their air defences

😂 😂 😂

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Nov 7 2022 07:39am
"A spokesperson for Germany’s government says Ukraine should decide when to hold peace talks with Russia, after reports suggested the United States had encouraged Kyiv to signal openness to discussions."

my view on that is - Ukraine: never.

/e "Ukraine’s president has ruled out negotiations with Moscow while Russian President Vladimir Putin is in power."

And my view on that is - the next guy will probably be worse...

also

"Ukraine has received its first delivery of NASAMS and Apside air defence systems from Norway, Spain and the United States, the country’s defence minister has said. “We will continue to shoot down the enemy targets attacking us. Thank you to our partners: Norway, Spain and the US,” Oleksii Reznikov tweeted."

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Quote (ferdia @ Nov 7 2022 03:39pm)
"A spokesperson for Germany’s government says Ukraine should decide when to hold peace talks with Russia, after reports suggested the United States had encouraged Kyiv to signal openness to discussions."

my view on that is - Ukraine: never.

/e "Ukraine’s president has ruled out negotiations with Moscow while Russian President Vladimir Putin is in power."

And my view on that is - the next guy will probably be worse...

also

"Ukraine has received its first delivery of NASAMS and Apside air defence systems from Norway, Spain and the United States, the country’s defence minister has said. “We will continue to shoot down the enemy targets attacking us. Thank you to our partners: Norway, Spain and the US,” Oleksii Reznikov tweeted."



nice now we have to send cameras so Selensky can make movie of how they shoot down Rus missiles and report to sick in za head here in this thread 😂
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Nov 7 2022 07:53am
IMO The next guy could probaly be worse ( not 100% sure ) himself but would also be ALOT weakier.
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Nov 7 2022 07:56am
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 7 2022 08:39am)
"A spokesperson for Germany’s government says Ukraine should decide when to hold peace talks with Russia, after reports suggested the United States had encouraged Kyiv to signal openness to discussions."

my view on that is - Ukraine: never.

/e "Ukraine’s president has ruled out negotiations with Moscow while Russian President Vladimir Putin is in power."

And my view on that is - the next guy will probably be worse...

also

"Ukraine has received its first delivery of NASAMS and Apside air defence systems from Norway, Spain and the United States, the country’s defence minister has said. “We will continue to shoot down the enemy targets attacking us. Thank you to our partners: Norway, Spain and the US,” Oleksii Reznikov tweeted."


MSM is pumping out articles of US and other western countries encouraging Ukraine to seek a negotiation, i've noticed this over the last week or so.

None of us really know what's happening behind the scenes. This could either be smoke and mirrors while military aid and money keeps flowing or it could be a sign that support for Ukraine is waning and Europe wants this to be over sooner rather than later.

If Ukraine goes dark during the winter, you probably would have another big wave of refugees. Hundreds of thousands? Maybe even a few million more? These people coming are fully reliant on aid. Like how many more people can rich countries like Germany absorb? These people in the short-medium term need fully subsidized housing, foods, medical aid etc. Realistically I would think over 1k euro per month per person--all coming from an already pressured social net.
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MSM is pumping out articles of US and other western countries encouraging Ukraine to seek a negotiation, i've noticed this over the last week or so.

None of us really know what's happening behind the scenes. This could either be smoke and mirrors while military aid and money keeps flowing or it could be a sign that support for Ukraine is waning and Europe wants this to be over sooner rather than later.

If Ukraine goes dark during the winter, you probably would have another big wave of refugees. Hundreds of thousands? Maybe even a few million more? These people coming are fully reliant on aid. Like how many more people can rich countries like Germany absorb? These people in the short-medium term need fully subsidized housing, foods, medical aid etc. Realistically I would think over 1k euro per month per person--all coming from an already pressured social net.


Well I think its fair to say:

1. Ukraine will not negotiate with Russia unless either the Government changes (in Ukraine or Russia) or more serious stuff happens.
2. I dont read much into this behind the scenes narrative. If the US tells Ukraine to settle with Russia, Ukraine will simply say "No".
3. I honestly do not see the US curbing its funding, something serious would have to happen in Ukraine/Russia for that to occur.

dont see much changing in the next few months, winter and all.

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Well I think its fair to say:

1. Ukraine will not negotiate with Russia unless either the Government changes (in Ukraine or Russia) or more serious stuff happens.
2. I dont read much into this behind the scenes narrative. If the US tells Ukraine to settle with Russia, Ukraine will simply say "No".
3. I honestly do not see the US curbing its funding, something serious would have to happen in Ukraine/Russia for that to occur.

dont see much changing in the next few months, winter and all.


I don't think much changes over next few months either but i think you are wrong on the influence the US/EU have over Ukraine. Ukraine is literally on life support, fully reliant on outside money and armament. They could publicly demand that Russia overthrow it's government for negotiations to happen or posture that they'll keep fighting until they reclaim everything but those are just words, as soon as there's some signaling in the west of less military/money aid they'll come to the table.
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Nov 7 2022 08:43am
We are ready to accept all refugee as long as not from Morocco and Nigeria, Ukraine ok they start work 2-3week after get work integrate easy speak Polish in 6month.
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We are ready to accept all refugee as long as not from Morocco and Nigeria, Ukraine ok they start work 2-3week after get work integrate easy speak Polish in 6month.


What's wrong with Morocco and Nigeria?
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