I don't like making assumptions but everything in the war so far is telling us the flow is going towards escalation. While you and other morons watch individual videos of a couple tanks/soldiers you ignore the real picture.

You think Russia can't muster up more than 2-3 million men? So far we haven't even passed 200k (the 300k havn't entered yet). And at that point how much of ukraine will be destroyed, how many years of war? You realize Russia has just started mobilizing the economy to pump out new weapons, and refurbishing the literal tens of thousands of tanks/apcs/artillery etc?

If two countries like iran and iraq were able to go on almost 10 years with 1+million army, you don't think the 2nd largest producer of weapons with a 150m population can't fight for 10 more years?

The 200-300b wont even scratch the surface to repair the damage caused, and the exodus of ukranians to come. It is a bit bizarre how people can ignore these things. Im not gonna go into the economical side of things, the expansion of bricks and shanghai cooperation, and other things that are happening in the background

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 6 2022 02:32pm

There were some early attacks on select military targets like air defense or radar stations, but alliance soldiers set foot on Iraqi soil less than one day after the proper bombings had begun. Even these bombings focused on military targets. Less than 3 weeks later, Baghdad had fallen.




The war itself had not done a whole lot of direct damage to Iraq's electricity grid. It fell increasingly short of demand in the following years as a combination of multiple factors: missed maintenance, an economic crisis which led to underinvestment, the civil war like conditions during the Iraq insurgency and the country's explosive population growth, from 27m in 2003 to 44m in 2022.

According to [1], Iraq had about 15.5 hours of electricity per day in February 2010.
[1] https://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Centers/saban/iraq-index/index20110131.PDF

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 6 2022 02:36pm

Iraqs electrical infrastructure was completely destroyed by missile strikes before any american set foot in, anyone who says otherwise is lying.

I visited iraq in 2003-2005 a few times, there was no electricity whatsoever because americans bombed it to shit. They even bombed the mosul-dam generator which used to supply the area i stayed in (a week or so) using bunker busters (according to locals i spoke with who had seen it happen, one of whom was an engineer who used to work on the dam).

The 15.5 hours of electricity isn't what you think it is. There are shortages every 3 hours, where private electric companies using primitive generators supply electricity (only enough for smaller things, not heating/cooling/fridge etc). Even to this day, iraq doesn't have more than 12-13 hours of electricity a day.

As i am an eye-witness, and know people in the area your sources don't mean shit to me. Also insurgency isn't it, because there was no insurgency during 2003-2022 in the areas i visited (just north of mosul dam, also krg infrastructure is only sort of connected to the iraqi grid). Great source though, always interesting to see bullshit to the maximum. Sorta like the one where they said the 91 sanctions didn't lead to any inc child mortality, but when you speak with doctors who worked in the area ( my dad included ) they talk about mass starvation (usually death by protein-deficiency, that is beside all deaths due to no medical supplies, dad used to tell me they would use the same syringe so many times it would break in patients because they couldn't even get suringes. So when you ask him if death rate increased he says probably a million dead kids. If meet anyone from iraq, ask them about the famine during the sanctions they will tell you if people starved or not.)

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 6 2022 03:02pm

Russia still builds cars with 50-60s tech, all their refurbishing comes down to imitating war theyve already lost
It's hilarious that simpletons like you think outcomes of global conflicts are decided on the battlefields like in 19-20th century with Napoleon being able to decide the fate of Europe in a single battle
Russia has been forced in a pit of degeneracy, what makes all of this even more sweet is that while drowning in its own shit Russia is screaming on top of its lungs - "I am doing this proudly"

That is what i meant with t72 and t72 arguement.

I told you truthfully, i dont know where this war goes 100%, anyone who tells you they can predict outcome of wars are liers. But if it keeps escalating (by the looks of things that is the case), ukraine will be utterly destroyed (at that point there is no such thing as a "victory", victor of mud?)

This post was edited by ownyaah on Nov 6 2022 02:42pm

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-kyiv-martial-law-donetsk-4bca86846f073de6b1746adf9df13f14

There's actually talk now of evacuating the entirety of Kiev. Probably first to shelters, then everyone becoming refugees.
That would be 3 million new refugees fleeing to europe from a wartorn nation. And it would leave Kiev as a largely unguarded, unscathed prize if Russia decides on a new offensive in spring


I guess this is the logical delivery of what I've been warning about from the start. That if Russia wanted to, they could take out all the critical civilian infrastructure in population centers. But what I didn't anticipate is that they'd wait to do so until winter comes, to maximize the impact and not give time to try to cobble a patchwork of generators and western supply lines to restore it.

If escalation continues, this is the only possible outcome. If it happens, then kiev would be forced to go west, because that is where the nuclear power stations are, which russians can't bomb. Even bombing their substations would lead to chernobyl.

I think this is a misrepresentation of how things actually went down. Russia was never able to establish proper air superiority and Kyiv's missile defense system seems to have been doing a good job. What presumably turned the tide in this regard are the Iranian suicide drones, which are hard to detect early and can be sent in swarms where it's enough if just 10-20% survive the AA and reach the target. If this interpretation is correct, the timing of Ukraine's infrastructure breaking down was due to a Russian desperation move proving unexpectedly effective, rather than due to brilliant long-term strategy.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 6 2022 03:51pm

Zelensky "warned" of good news soon regarding air defense, like in weeks.
Still: Barbaric Russian army continue to destroy vital civilians infrastructures and Poland prepare itself for more refugees.
These degenerate are even sinking civilian boats... Who can defend such behavior seriously ? No one.

USA + UK leadership that chose to sacrifice ukreich lives by enforcing the collapse of early peace deal

and crossdresser Zolinsky that accepted this demand from his owners, further accepting/prolonging sacrifice of lives from people whos interests he was supposed to uphold



This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Nov 6 2022 04:25pm