We could of crushed Russia at least 4-5 times in its miserable history, instead we thought that we are dealing with human beings thus helped them get out of mud they where drowning in just for them to get back up and start threatening us again and again.

The terrible famine took place in Russia in 1891. One of the reason was a poor harvest. The other reasons - traditional Russian administrationships. It is necessary to note that there was a system of special grain warehouses in Russia for a case of a poor harvest. The peasants usually were helped by grain from these warehouses in a case of a poor harvest. But at that time, Russia began to intensively sell grain abroad, and pursuing for profits these warehouses were also sold out. It had been registered that about 400 000 peasants had died (the real number is much more because there was not any proper accounting). Traditionally the Russian Government at first did not recognize the existence of hunger and Tzar Alexander III said: "in my country there are no starving people, there are some victims of crop failure". The Russians refused from any assistance from abroad.

But when William Edgar offered the help Russia agreed to accept it. All the America took part in that help to Russia. You can easily read about that in many open sources. Several American ships delivered a lot of food to Russia in Baltic sea.

The amount of help was really huge. By the way, famous Russian marine artist Aivazovsky watched the arrival of the US ships to port of Riga. He had painted two paintings about those events. He gifted the paintings to the Corcoran Gallery. During the Caribean crisis Jacqueline Kennedy placed the paintings in the White House to remind the Russians about that friendly help.

When the Russian Empire did not exist already, the USA traditionally continued to help Russia.

Once again the USA saved Russia from even more terrible famine in 1921-1922. A lot of food and medicine had been delivered to Russia and helped to stop the typhus epidemic that killed tens of thousands of people .

During 1920s-1930s the USA have performed the USSR industrialisation. The company Albert Kahn Associates, Inc. alone had built 571 plants and factories. The total American help resulted in more than 1500 industrial objects. About 200 000 American specialists worked in the USSR at that time.

The next case of the USA help was the WWII. This help was crucial in 1941-1942 years. Just imagine, the USA did not enter the war yet, they remembered that the USSR was a Hitler ally lately, and in spite of this they began to help. Now the Russians downplay the importance of help of the allies during the war. But the fact remains that without the help of the allies, the USSR would not stand the first two years of the war.

During 1990s we basically fed and clothed starving Russians after their utopia dream came crumbling down, helped them re-mold their centralized economy despite having to deal with their savage way of thinking and gangster capitalism they preferred to conduct instead of reforms. Funding 100s of programs in Russia to help them get back on their feet.

This was wrong, no matter how much you help a savage rabies infected dog it will still bite the hand that feeds it in the end.

This post was edited by Palasan on Nov 3 2022 09:23am

whats your point? USA is the good guy?

Everytime i had a russian to discuss with about ukraine, russia, corruption, or whatever subject the feeling is always the same:

shrugging shoulders



That's the only answer i got. That or doing heavy, vulgar, sarcasm.

Especially when you were posting dead Russians soldiers. Find someone (Russian) on the street, show it, call him an orc, tell him that he'll be eating cow dung galettes soon and then ask him to discuss Ukraine, corruption and weather.
Hopeless case.



This post was edited by Norlander on Nov 3 2022 10:06am

They always deflect and project their fake sorrow over Iraq, never mentioning what war criminal Putin has done in Syria recently (which is way worse and far more barbaric, using dumb bombs on civilians etc)
Interestingly despite this they tend to not want to move back to Russia or even visit there at all.

I dont think i ever posted dead russians soldiers picture on internet, not even saying orc.
Hopeless, that's the point.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 3 2022 10:15am

Okay, it was Saucisson6000, your alter-ego

Control panels of Norwegian Kongsberg air defence system vs. Russian S300 missile system. Ruzzian soldier laugh: that picture is from Star Wars franchise!



Governor of Perm Oblast Makhonin visited late in the evening mobilised conscripts at a training facility.

“Where are our regional payments?” annoying conscript wanna know.

“I brought you socks and tees!” Makhonin deflects from the fact that he stole conscripts’ compensations and already spent it.

“We need our one time payments that were promised to us from 150,000 rubles to 300,000 rubles!”

“I have two wives and ten illegitimate children,” Governor loses patience. “How you want me to f—- give you the money?”

No and no.